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Zeus
10-28-2009, 02:03 PM
We've just received some exclusive news and specs on the Wii 2 via <a href="http://www.Logic-Sunrise.com" target="_blank">Logic-Sunrise.com</a>) (though a Nintendo of France marketing employee). The leaked specs denote the Wii 2 will get a Blu-ray drive (mainly to stop piracy), but will also support 1080P for games as well as movies. The new system is due out during the third quarter of next year and there will be the option to trade in old Wii's!

<center><img src="http://www.maxconsole.net/content_img/wii2bluray1080p.jpg"></center></a>

More details below (translated from French):

This is a nice exclusive we have here at MaxConsole courtesy of Artik from www.Logic-sunrise.com on the Wii 2. The actual information is said to have been leaked from an internal source of the marketing Nintendo France Service. Unlucky for them, this kind of information should stay internal, but that's not our philosophy.

- The Wii2 system will feature a Blu-Ray drive with a secondary aim of stopping piracy.
- 1080P and lower resolutions will be supported, for blu-ray movies and games.
- The release date is scheduled for third quarter of 2010.
- The release will be worldwide and on the same day for all countries.
- A scheme will be available in which it is possible to trade in the original Wii for a cheaper price on the new Wii 2.

Moreover, Nintendo wants to make a worlwide annoucement, only one month before release date. Huge publicity and Viral Marketing will be utilized to create the Buzz. Official pictures are not yet available, and more specs will be released in due course.

[b]Why do we believe it at all ?/b]

* Artik from Logic-Sunrise.com has regularly provided news to MaxConsole and has a lot of 'insider' contacts.

* Nintendo has suggested that it's time they embraced high definition technology for the Wii and Blu-ray has firmly established itself. So a Wii 2 with Blu-ray support does make sense.

EL_CAD
10-28-2009, 02:11 PM
there will be the option to trade in old Wii's!
Now that's the kind of innovation I like to hear about!

ModderFokker
10-28-2009, 02:12 PM
The leaked specs denote the Wii 2 will get a Blu-ray drive (mainly to stop piracy)


Lol....mainly to stop piracy ????

How could that be a reason ?
And how could a bluray drive stop piracy :rolleyes:

Eric10301
10-28-2009, 02:22 PM
The fact that this lists blu-ray and 1080p means its bs. Since when has Nintendo ever used current technology to build their systems.

InsaneNutter
10-28-2009, 02:29 PM
Very unlikely to be honest, Nintendo can milk the Wii for a long time to come and make loads doing so. Ill believe it when it happens.

EL_CAD
10-28-2009, 02:30 PM
The fact that this lists blu-ray and 1080p means its bs. Since when has Nintendo ever used current technology to build their systems.

The Gamecube used DVD media just like the PS2 and XBox did.

The_Nothing
10-28-2009, 02:31 PM
I'm not trading in my hacked up sh*tty Wii for Wii 2. Unless Wii 2 will be hacked.

Then I'll trade it in.

And Nintendo had better get with the f**king program and make the systems graphic capabilities the same as or better then PS3 or Xbox360.

CZroe
10-28-2009, 02:32 PM
Now that MS can make a high-def console for under $200, of course Nintendo can, but will they? It's been their mantra in the handheld market for some time... don't introduce the highest-end available, introduce the highest end available under the target price point. They justified the Wii's price point by saying that it was what they could do for $250 (actually, it's what they could do for much less, considering the GameCube's long-time $99 price tag before that) and said that they wouldn't introduce more until it, too, could be introduced for less. That means that they could have done it last year but they were still having trouble keeping the Wii in stock even without a price cut, so why bother and give up all that profit?

That said, I still think this exact info is BS based on the trade-in thing. I mean, honestly... what do you think Nintendo is going to do with the traded-in consoles? Would it really still have GC/Wii support without your old console?

GT-RRR
10-28-2009, 02:49 PM
Does this mean... a Nintendo Console Processor will finally surpass *gasp* 1GHz?!

OMG!

stanleyopar2000
10-28-2009, 02:53 PM
now that's the kind of innovation i like to hear about!



ya.

there was also a umd trade in program. For the psp piece of sh it go

this is just a ploy to get preorders. When it becomes enough. They will scrap it.

Xenogears V
10-28-2009, 02:55 PM
It is an old console yet. Ps3 have all this.

NJMane
10-28-2009, 03:09 PM
Wow, this is such a load of crap. In no way will they release a new console in 2010. They just did a price drop on the original and people are still purchasing those. Much less they would have no time for any PR or Advertising. I say take this with LESS than a grain of salt.

Honestly this should have not even been posted by how blatantly unrealistic it is. But its not my site so oh well.

phearlez
10-28-2009, 03:10 PM
Sony wins again (bluray).

The_Nothing
10-28-2009, 03:18 PM
Wow, this is such a load of crap. In no way will they release a new console in 2010. They just did a price drop on the original and people are still purchasing those. Much less they would have no time for any PR or Advertising. I say take this with LESS than a grain of salt.

Honestly this should have not even been posted by how blatantly unrealistic it is. But its not my site so oh well.

Why is it unrealistic?

Guess what, Nintendo is coming out with a new DSI. With a bigger screen. LMAO!

I mean really, to say Nintendo wont have Wii 2 out is like saying the Original DS would have been the only DS made. Now there will be 4 different kinds of DS systems.

DS Phat, DS Lite, DSI, and now DSI with bigger 4 inch screen.

Wii 2 will happen.

crono
10-28-2009, 03:19 PM
"The Wii2 system will feature a Blu-Ray drive with a secondary aim of stopping piracy." :confused:

How will this stop piracy??? Wii have usb hdd loader so will have wii2 when hacked,also blu-ray is cracked long time ago,there even working on a jtag bluray drive hack for ps3 at the moment. So how is blu-ray gonna stop piracy again???

Also it dasn't mean becuase wii was a hit wii-2 will also be a hit, did they forget they made it for non gamers??? There not intrested in a wii-2,only hardcore games whant a new system,like a xbox720 or ps4

tech3475
10-28-2009, 03:35 PM
REMEMBER: The reason why the Wii was hacked was because of the twiizer hack and changing some bytes of ram in the DVD drive. Nintendo are learning from their mistakes as shown with the DSi.

Also Nintendo made a profit on every unit soled unlike MS/Sony so this is either going to be more expensive that the Wii or they will start making money from games. If its true.

This sounds like just another rumour if you ask me.

Personally, even if it is true I wouldn't upgrade unless the system becomes hacked like my Wii and there are games worth buying for it besides the occasional treat from nintendo and maybe the odd one from a third party. These days I actually have more "fun" just modifying it than the games.

patstevens
10-28-2009, 04:09 PM
The Gamecube used DVD media just like the PS2 and XBox did.

actually it used mini dvds that were burned in a different way so as to make them unreadable on a normal pc. so technically it didn't use the same discs as the xbox/ps2. but a smaller capacity version.

CharmedonWB
10-28-2009, 04:16 PM
ok, they're releasing Wii 2 by third quarter of next year? The Wii just had its first price drop--how in the hell is Nintendo coming out with another Wii this soon? There is no way this is happening. It makes not one iota of business sense at all. If it happens, then I will stand corrected but this would be one hell of a stupid move for Ninty.

snawznet
10-28-2009, 04:41 PM
I would agree that it would be a little soon for nintendo but if it did come out I would probably get it:)

bobbydavro
10-28-2009, 04:52 PM
what a load of total shite, trading in a console, blu ray, pure bollox!

NJMane
10-28-2009, 05:04 PM
I think you are misreading my post. I did not say that the Wii 2 is unrealistic (this will happen) I am saying that there is no way in hell it will come out late next year. As for your comments on the DSi they are releasing one with a larger screen not a completely new system. The progression of the DS (from regular to lite to dsi to larger screen dsi) is all the same damn system not a NEW DS.

Thus to even post something as an "exclusive" drags the credibility of the site down because its just ludicrous to even say a Wii 2 will be out in a years time with a blu-ray drive etc.


Why is it unrealistic?

Guess what, Nintendo is coming out with a new DSI. With a bigger screen. LMAO!

I mean really, to say Nintendo wont have Wii 2 out is like saying the Original DS would have been the only DS made. Now there will be 4 different kinds of DS systems.

DS Phat, DS Lite, DSI, and now DSI with bigger 4 inch screen.

Wii 2 will happen.

EL_CAD
10-28-2009, 05:49 PM
It is an old console yet. Ps3 have all this.

1080p is certainly debatable. The PS3 does not have that many games that are really 1080p.

EL_CAD
10-28-2009, 05:52 PM
There not intrested in a wii-2,only hardcore games whant a new system,like a xbox720 or ps4
No we want EARTHBOUND! And maybe some 2d Metroid. For everything we'll stick to PC.

EL_CAD
10-28-2009, 05:53 PM
actually it used mini dvds that were burned in a different way so as to make them unreadable on a normal pc. so technically it didn't use the same discs as the xbox/ps2. but a smaller capacity version.

It's still the same technology, it's just implemented differently.

crypysmoker
10-28-2009, 05:59 PM
lolol..
Maxconsole Exclusive lol..
Because noone else will want to post it.

Now, Yes, nintendo has made a CRAP load of profit off of the Wii. And in turn, it would be smart of them to now come out with a competing console in the middle of the new generation. If done right, nintendo could come back as the best.... but since N64 kind of destroyed that..

I would love to see nintendo and Sega get together to make a console. Ahhhh it would be great.

RuneEdge
10-28-2009, 07:48 PM
The only way this could be real is if its not actually a Wii2 but more like a Wii 1.5. Nintendo have a history of remaking existing devices and also a history of sticking to a formula that works (makes money) no matter how stubborn it may be. The Wii is still making a ton of money so the only way they'd make a new console is if its a remake that's aimed at the same market. And there has already been news of a WiiHD coming out some time next year so maybe this is it.
But there's no way this could actually be a Wii 2 cuz its still too early for another generation of consoles.

ThreeDog
10-28-2009, 08:54 PM
It could happen there are lots of reasons for why it should happen but i'll wait for addition confirmation.

Blu-Ray won't do a thing for piracy if the console isn't built securely in the first place.

zecht
10-28-2009, 09:44 PM
Max Console believes it because they're gullible and think this website is worthy of receiving exclusive news.

But this is why I come here, for shits and giggles.

phreaker47
10-29-2009, 12:20 AM
Sure, OK, fastest selling console of all time, drop it less than 4 years later? OK.

NaTaS666
10-29-2009, 03:03 AM
fake. ........

niboRasooR
10-29-2009, 04:48 AM
I believe something's gonna go down! Nintendo themselves kept denying DSi 's existence till the last minute so hell... this could be true. I mean they have what fourth model of the DS out in Japan this year.

But if the console is due out next year, why hasnt this leaked already from a 3rd party developer? Huh? I mean all those people working for new games for 2 years advance for a new console? The only answer is: the new console scales the resolution of old games and is basically the same so all the devs can just jump in as it is with the DSi.

The only way I see this happening is:
- It's a Wii-i upgrade with same horsepower, only better resolution (same polygons and textures etc, crappy online and so on)
- It supports old Wii games so it's basically like DSi compared to DS Lite
- Super Mario Galaxy 2 would require the new Wii-i 1.5

While realistic, that's already three conditions Nintendo would have to meet to make a World Wide launch like that. I can understand a new DSi coming out in Japan but a totally new console... nope. An upgrade? They've done that before with handhelds over and over so why not.

Why this could be true as an upgrade
- Nintendo has done tons of upgraded versions of consoles before (both tv and handhelds)
- They now have money to have Wii 1.5 aswell as their next gen tv-console and handheld in development at the same time
- They did the trading of consoles before with DS and Lite

danight
10-29-2009, 08:58 AM
but will also support 1080P for games

Really....?... and they arent up grading the video chip or ram???? sounds fishy considering xbox 360 and ps3 cant do this with their specs.
Upscaling chip maybe?????

wrathchild
10-29-2009, 02:40 PM
So Nintendo is finally going to jump on board the "next gen" train? Or are they just going to slap a blu ray player into the Wii and call it something else?

nobodyreally
10-29-2009, 03:22 PM
OK...I'm prepared to be pummeled...

I think there may be some creedence to these rumored points, and I think Wii 2 is coming.

-It's been long enough to develop a new Wii. Plenty of time to get it together.
-The Wii is certainly behind the other leading platforms; why wait any longer. If u want to buy a new platform, do u really go for the Wii at this point in time? They need a better Wii, and need it now to avoid missed sales and lost market share.
-Q3 2010 works fine. 2011 is too far off (especially to adopt HD, HD is now), and is right before Christmas, and works with the rumored "one month prior-to" ad campaign.
-Wii sales likely are slowing. It's been out for years, it's getting some bad speaks in gaming circles (when compared to the latest devices), and the recent price drop is likely a move to squeeze a few more end-bucks out.
-They NEED to have an HD platform. They HAVE to. HDTV's are here to stay and will be the norm. HDMI is a given.
-It has to play DVD's, and Blu-Ray is "it". This is a major selling point. No one wants to have to go out and buy another special unit just to play HD DVD's.
-MotionPlus IS the "next gen" for Wii-style control. There is not any whacky mind-controlled controller or 3D thing-a-ma-jig coming anytime soon. The controller is the only thing that makes Wii 1 a more advance unit. The Wii controller scheme will not be matched by other consoles, especially with integrated MotionPlus.
-Nintendo does do mid-cycle products (or upgrades), this is fact.
-Wii 2 will play all previous games. It will have to. It will simply detect and upconvert the video to HD-like quality. Most DVD players do this now. Not rocket science.
-Of course it'll have better graphics, more memory, faster processor, a hard drive, etc (duh, a no-brainer, hardware is cheap)
-The old Wii trade-in deal...maybe a stretch, but...would u be more inclined to go out, buy Wii 2, instantly dust-bin'ing ur Wii 1, and spending some VERY big money; or would it be an easier decision if they would give u say $99 for your old Wii, and charge u say $275 for the Wii 2? I would DEFINITELY trade in my old for new if they gave me $'s off. (This is also why the new Wii will HAVE to play all old/existing games.)
-With more power, HD, MotionPlus, etc...the BEST developers will clamour to get their games on the Wii 2. They'd be stupid not too. MotionPlus will allow very high-end development and control (it's pretty dang good). Have u played a shooting game with a Wii controller (Resident Evil 4, Zelda, etc.)?? It makes the traditional handheld controller look silly for shooting.
-There has been rumor out there of job postings for development of "new gen Wii games". I think it's been happening for quite a while now. I foresee a small offering of new stuff when Wii 2 is introduced, but a flood of new HD stuff will come, especially if Wii 2 is seen as strong.
-They will make the online/multi-player experience "as it should be", with individual machine ID's, etc. This is not a stretch to implement.
-Betcha they make it handle camera cards/photos; for display and even online sharing.
-Betcha they make on-TV web browsing a main component.
-There will be some "surprise" included. Don't know what, but we're talking "wow-factor". One new feature or ability that will be quite amazing.
-5.1 sound is not asking that much. It's like HD, becoming standard.
-No reason to make it smaller. Wii 1 form-factor is small and could likely support all Wii 2's needs. And, if it's slightly bigger, who's really going to cry over it?
-The Wii brand name will be used. Wii 2, Wii HD, etc. Not a new name. Why not? This will still be the Wii, but a Wii that matches/surpasses the current best machines. Wii is big and recognizable. Stupid not to use it.


My 2 cents. A new Wii IS coming guys...

panyan1991
10-29-2009, 04:13 PM
Sony wins again (bluray).

sony wins again (1080p)

NeoNight
10-29-2009, 06:57 PM
This just in:

Pigs can fly!

Jason Voorhees
10-29-2009, 10:44 PM
this is total BS.

weeboo
10-29-2009, 11:40 PM
i would agree that putting a bluray drive in wii2 will not stop piracy, but itd "rather limit the amount piracy of the game" if ever wii2 gets hacked. why? the price of blank bluray discs and bluray burner are sill fckn expensive and only few can afford them and can benefit from it.

how about playing off external hard drive on wii2.. its possible hackers will be able to create a program so you can dump the bluray iso off a hard drive and play from hard drive. (external or internal hd if wii2 will have one). its the same thing youd waste some $$$$. knowing wii2' games will be a bluray and have hd content, the file size would be big as ps3 games, so archivin all games in hard drive will cost you as you buy more hd to dump all your wii2 games. like i said from previous paragraph, only few people would benefit from it. if there are only few people doing it, piracy will be low/lessen.

thats what i think when nintendo said a thing about bluray can prevent piracy: what they really meant is bluray can limit the amount of piracy of games. everyone knows no one can stop piracy completely, but you can lessen the toll of piracy with software/hardware securities ( raids lulz)

anyway, idk whats the fuzz about nintendo putting a bluray drive in their future console. i bet if only nintendo had seen the future that bluray won over hddvd, they could have put a bluray drive in wii, and limit the blow of piracy of wii games that is going right now. i cant imagine how much more sale of games theyd gotten. stop your reason: wii console sales is high because it was hacked. bs.

Reconite
10-30-2009, 03:13 AM
This thread is full to the brim with fanboys.
Can you all just STFU!? Stop taking shots at the Wii, even now you're doing it when we might be getting a Wii 2 with better graphics. It's so f*****g ridiculous that you can still complain about it even when what everyone's been crying about the Wii not being good with (graphics) could be getting an upgrade.

You're all extremely butthurt fanboys that if this is real (which is very, very unlikely I'll admit) it will probably surpass even the Xbox 360's graphics because it has 1080p and Blu-Ray...

Think about it: Nintendo definitely has the money, and to make more profit it needs to appeal more to the mature gamers (not "hardcore", because that word means nothing, it's complete bullcrap, "hardcore" is Megaman 1, not Gears of War). Being a graphics fanboy doesn't make you a "hardcore" gamer, it's quite the opposite, being able to play games without being affected by how good or bad the graphics are makes you a true hardcore gamer.

Also, this:
http://i702.photobucket.com/albums/ww24/Reconite/Wii-Games.jpg

*StoneCold*
10-30-2009, 05:43 AM
So Nintendo is finally going to jump on board the "next gen" train? Or are they just going to slap a blu ray player into the Wii and call it something else?

So next gen is better graphics?

No, next gen is innovation, simple!

Traceable
10-30-2009, 06:06 AM
It is an old console yet. Ps3 have all this.
lol..you said it rightly.

CharmedonWB
10-30-2009, 07:54 AM
i would agree that putting a bluray drive in wii2 will not stop piracy, but itd "rather limit the amount piracy of the game" if ever wii2 gets hacked. why? the price of blank bluray discs and bluray burner are sill fckn expensive and only few can afford them and can benefit from it.

how about playing off external hard drive on wii2.. its possible hackers will be able to create a program so you can dump the bluray iso off a hard drive and play from hard drive. (external or internal hd if wii2 will have one). its the same thing youd waste some $$$$. knowing wii2' games will be a bluray and have hd content, the file size would be big as ps3 games, so archivin all games in hard drive will cost you as you buy more hd to dump all your wii2 games. like i said from previous paragraph, only few people would benefit from it. if there are only few people doing it, piracy will be low/lessen.

thats what i think when nintendo said a thing about bluray can prevent piracy: what they really meant is bluray can limit the amount of piracy of games. everyone knows no one can stop piracy completely, but you can lessen the toll of piracy with software/hardware securities ( raids lulz)

anyway, idk whats the fuzz about nintendo putting a bluray drive in their future console. i bet if only nintendo had seen the future that bluray won over hddvd, they could have put a bluray drive in wii, and limit the blow of piracy of wii games that is going right now. i cant imagine how much more sale of games theyd gotten. stop your reason: wii console sales is high because it was hacked. bs.

Um, if Wii games weren't pirated they would be selling a lot more? Give me a break, now that is a load of b/s. Look at how well Mario Kart Wii is doing. That game was heavily pirated--do you really think sales would be much higher had it not been? Let's take a look at the DS, probably the most pirated of all current gen gaming devices. It is so heavily pirated that Nintendo is actively pursuing any distributor of the R4 flash carts. Do you see how well many of the highly pirated DS games are selling? Piracy has an impact on the gaming market, but I do not know what it is and neither do you. Until we have substantial proof, it would be best if you stop making assumptions.

Shadow_Satey
10-30-2009, 12:49 PM
If this is true, you've bought me back in. If not, **** you!
The End.

weeboo
10-30-2009, 03:01 PM
Um, if Wii games weren't pirated they would be selling a lot more? Give me a break, now that is a load of b/s. Look at how well Mario Kart Wii is doing. That game was heavily pirated--do you really think sales would be much higher had it not been? Let's take a look at the DS, probably the most pirated of all current gen gaming devices. It is so heavily pirated that Nintendo is actively pursuing any distributor of the R4 flash carts. Do you see how well many of the highly pirated DS games are selling? Piracy has an impact on the gaming market, but I do not know what it is and neither do you. Until we have substantial proof, it would be best if you stop making assumptions.

im lmao reading your ambigouous reply. it doesnt make sense. are you fckn rebuttin yourself? can you please try it one more time wo mixing shits.

the only part that makes sense you said was piracy has an impact on the gaming market, which i agree. but if youre trying to say from your previous sentences that my assumptions were not correct that " if Wii games weren't pirated, they would be selling a lot more," i think majority of people would agree with me that game sales would have been high. let me ask you one thing, if wii wasnt hacked, how could you play a pirated game? the only way for a wii user could play a game is.... buying the actual game. this thing also can be applied to xbox 360 games, do you really think the sales of games such as gears of wars, halo, dead rising and among others werent affected by piracy.... you said you know how much piracy is affecting gamin market, but you couldnt use your analogy to see the outcome... (if those sale loss were gain, whats the result of that?) imagine if half of those piraters had actually owned the actual game, game devs could have gotten more revenue than theyve had right now.

these arent assumptions and i could provide dozens proof that can support my claims. lets not pretend we have never read a news about sales loss of a software because of piracy. in pc softwares alone can be estimated how much $$ these software devs are losing: ill cough some expensive softwares (Autodesk's maya and 3d max, Adobe products and MS os..etc) that everyone pirates... sure i cant provide figures of piraters of these products but its kinda bs to say assume that theyre not losing $$$ for every pirate software out there.

CharmedonWB
10-31-2009, 01:08 PM
im lmao reading your ambigouous reply. it doesnt make sense. are you fckn rebuttin yourself? can you please try it one more time wo mixing shits.

the only part that makes sense you said was piracy has an impact on the gaming market, which i agree. but if youre trying to say from your previous sentences that my assumptions were not correct that " if Wii games weren't pirated, they would be selling a lot more," i think majority of people would agree with me that game sales would have been high. let me ask you one thing, if wii wasnt hacked, how could you play a pirated game? the only way for a wii user could play a game is.... buying the actual game. this thing also can be applied to xbox 360 games, do you really think the sales of games such as gears of wars, halo, dead rising and among others werent affected by piracy.... you said you know how much piracy is affecting gamin market, but you couldnt use your analogy to see the outcome... (if those sale loss were gain, whats the result of that?) imagine if half of those piraters had actually owned the actual game, game devs could have gotten more revenue than theyve had right now.

these arent assumptions and i could provide dozens proof that can support my claims. lets not pretend we have never read a news about sales loss of a software because of piracy. in pc softwares alone can be estimated how much $$ these software devs are losing: ill cough some expensive softwares (Autodesk's maya and 3d max, Adobe products and MS os..etc) that everyone pirates... sure i cant provide figures of piraters of these products but its kinda bs to say assume that theyre not losing $$$ for every pirate software out there.

There is no substantial evidence that even begins to suggest the true impact of piracy on the market. Pokemon diamond and pearl are the second best selling games in the franchise and yet they have been highly pirated. Sims3 was highly pirated and yet it broke sales records. Batman Arkham Asylum was heavily pirated and yet its sales have been phenomenal. The 360 is a hackable machine whereas the PS3 is not and yet cross platform games are selling better on the 360. For everyone who pirates a game, how many of those people would have actually bought the game if piracy was not an option? Do you know these statistics, because without them you cannot accurately predict what the true impact is.

Kenko
11-01-2009, 12:53 PM
Since both the PS3 and the 360 are going to get motion controllers they are gonna have to upgrade the Wii.

Motion controllers are what makes the Wii unique, when the HD consoles get that as well the Wii will have nothing that the PS3 and 360 can't do better.

Reconite
11-17-2009, 01:05 PM
Motion controllers are what makes the Wii unique, when the HD consoles get that as well the Wii will have nothing that the PS3 and 360 can't do better.
Except Mario, Zelda, Metroid and all other Nintendo franchise games.

nexistjamais
11-17-2009, 06:34 PM
... And a competent, fun implementation of those motion controls into a fun game. Based off of most 3rd party Wii efforts so far, I wouldn't hold your breath on the HD twins getting any good software to go with the new motion controllers. As for project Natal, do you think it will ever turn into a complete product and shipped to store shelves? It looks like vaporware to me. All hype and no tech demos or release dates.

As for a Killer App, both MS and Sony are dependent on third parties for their big selling titles. With few exceptions, most third parties have either shown a lack of ability and/or desire to even try to make any motion controlled game for the Wii that isn't shovelware or a gimped, poorly controlling port. They seem to prefer to keep making sequels and clones since they have a flock who stole the word "hardcore" who will buy anything that gets thrownat them as long as it's an FPS or a sequel in order to prove how "hardcore" they are.

snake2
11-17-2009, 07:03 PM
The Wii does not need Blu-Ray to stop piracy it need better protection, hell just look at how fast New Super Mario Bros. was working