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Zeus
11-05-2009, 06:44 AM
When Xbox 360's are repaired now, MS seems to be slapping on a new revision of its warranty sticker. The new version features a black strip as well as a 'REEL' followed by a lengthy number. By contrast, previously repaired 360's did not feature such elements so what's the deal here?

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Beezer
11-05-2009, 06:49 AM
"so what's the deal here?"

C'mon, it's a big conspiracy. That's the deal!

*rolleyes*

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DEDDOA
11-05-2009, 07:16 AM
It's no doubt just make it more difficult for hackers to open 360's without leaving a mark, no big deal especial given how many seals i've seen on the clips that are not even properly attached. It's suprising just how many are like this and can be hacked, then returned to stock if there are problems, so that they can be returned to MS for replacement with no sign of tampering. I wouldn't be suprised if the number is somthing that is matched the seal with the console serial, as it is easy to just switch cases and transfer the serial sticker to a case with the non sealed seal for return to MS as well (I know a few people that have done this and in return gotten themselves several free 360's, tho obviously this only works with the same models).

breakfast4
11-05-2009, 07:23 AM
The new decal is made to be heat resistant, once heat has been applied the decals black strip will change color.

ant16151189
11-05-2009, 07:24 AM
lol i have done that trick several times had about 4 new 360's

ThreeDog
11-05-2009, 07:24 AM
Easier to tell if its been tampered with and is probably electronically scannable.

bennyb
11-05-2009, 07:59 AM
well i just had a look at the one i got back from ms on monday its just the normal one

Kafluke
11-05-2009, 08:57 AM
I gotta go with breakfast4 on this one. I'll bet you that if you use a heat gun to remove the warranty seal, you will now see a noticeable difference on the seal after applying heat.

I have a lady that lives in my neighborhood that manages the customer service department at Wal Mart. She said that they get a ton of returned "broken" xbox's every week. (someone has red ring and can't fix so they buy a new xbox, remove the guts and swap with the broken one and then return the broken one to Wal Mart as if it was the xbox they just purchased)

Microsoft no doubt sees a bunch of these come back and is attempting to mitigate that with a new warranty seal that show evidence of tampering.

Just my thought.

dannybII
11-05-2009, 11:39 AM
Quick, wrap it in tin foil and lock it under the stairs. MS is spying on YOU. :p

grapeape
11-05-2009, 12:00 PM
Its about time they did something about the seals, too many consumers get ripped off by loosers returning "working but banned" consoles to retailers with the justification that whatever retailer deserves it or can just write it off as a loss....the problem is that if it "tests" good which normally just means it powers on..it gets put back on the shelf.

DKing
11-05-2009, 12:30 PM
lol i have done that trick several times had about 4 new 360's

It's not a trick. It's a crime. I believe it's called fraud.

MadonnaProject
11-05-2009, 01:02 PM
I think instead of playing this cat and mouse game, if microsoft focused more on making consoles which did not break, and accepted the hackers as a by-product of the system, they would fare far well.

The xbox360's original budget had a 60% allocation (reportedly) towards making it secure and unhackable. We all know how that turned out.

Start being more of an entertainment company MS, and less of a government. It just goes in your favor at the end of the day. You're already almost 3rd. Um, congratulations?

ceril
11-05-2009, 03:12 PM
Im sure it is a heat strip. wonder what color it turns or if there is a wording that shows up. Also wonder if an xbox sitting in the back seat of a locked up car in the summer would get hot enough to turn these seals. Looks like a black sharpie may just be whats needed to turn the strip back to black. I knew a guy who use to open PS2's and the warrant sticker would say voind on it. when he was done modding it he would sharpie the sticker and put it back on, could never tell the diffrence.

The_Nothing
11-05-2009, 03:29 PM
I'm betting the black strip fades revealing the word "VOID" once heat is applied.

You can probably bypass it by heating up a small needle or pin and try to pry it from under the sticker. Keeping the black bar intact.

idc
11-05-2009, 03:30 PM
Looks like the start of a new reel of stickers to me. "REEL 403664" is most likely just a print run number (or batch code) for the reel from which this sticker came.

This particular sticker should have been disposed of rather than used, I guess the operative in the service centre might not have been paying attention.

ASSPOP
11-05-2009, 04:55 PM
I think instead of playing this cat and mouse game, if microsoft focused more on making consoles which did not break, and accepted the hackers as a by-product of the system, they would fare far well.

The xbox360's original budget had a 60% allocation (reportedly) towards making it secure and unhackable. We all know how that turned out.

Start being more of an entertainment company MS, and less of a government. It just goes in your favor at the end of the day. You're already almost 3rd. Um, congratulations?


lol i agree. I also think If microsoft would have actually fixed the RROD, then a lot less people would be returning these to walmart. I have returned over 6 consoles because of RROD I swapped the guts. I hope their greedy asses get their system hacked. Not only that, but the fuckers made it so that you can only play system link with someone who is 30 ms and lower, so xlink kai doesn't work that well. What a load of fucks. And instead of making it so that you can add any hdd like the ps3. They charge you a crazy amount of money for the hdd. Seriously, if the xbox 360 didn't have it being that you can burn the games I would have bought a ps3 long ago. Ps3 although it started off with the games looking worse than the xbox 360, I see it that they are more open about allowing you more freedom.

faceless
11-05-2009, 07:04 PM
unlike the old metallic ones, those fabric stickers don't even need to be heated to be removed!

all you need is a razor blade to get under it, and wiggle slowly and carefully, takes 30 seconds max.

grapeape
11-05-2009, 08:40 PM
lol i agree. I also think If microsoft would have actually fixed the RROD, then a lot less people would be returning these to walmart. I have returned over 6 consoles because of RROD I swapped the guts. I hope their greedy asses get their system hacked. Not only that, but the fuckers made it so that you can only play system link with someone who is 30 ms and lower, so xlink kai doesn't work that well. What a load of fucks. And instead of making it so that you can add any hdd like the ps3. They charge you a crazy amount of money for the hdd. Seriously, if the xbox 360 didn't have it being that you can burn the games I would have bought a ps3 long ago. Ps3 although it started off with the games looking worse than the xbox 360, I see it that they are more open about allowing you more freedom.

What a hypocrite, its crap like that which make me really hope next generation really is online and download only, just to all of your ilk can just go **** themselves after fucking over all the honest gamers in the world who have to deal with higher prices, endless updates, more and more drmm more restrictive return policies and in extreme cases less games when developers go elsewhere. The sad part with all the 360 whining is that you know damn well if the PS3 was hacked you would be all over that too.

Gaming isnt fucking fundamental right...

iLLNESS
11-05-2009, 09:39 PM
this sticker is kind of useless seeing as you can still open a 360, remove the contents without actually unclipping the front of the console.

plastic is a great thing.. it can flex :)

Blades
11-06-2009, 02:13 AM
What a hypocrite, its crap like that which make me really hope next generation really is online and download only, just to all of your ilk can just go **** themselves after fucking over all the honest gamers in the world who have to deal with higher prices, endless updates, more and more drmm more restrictive return policies and in extreme cases less games when developers go elsewhere. The sad part with all the 360 whining is that you know damn well if the PS3 was hacked you would be all over that too.

Gaming isnt fucking fundamental right...

Hear Hear. Exactly right!

And the old "I pirate because I can't afford it" excuse is old and cowardly. Get a 2nd job then or perhaps a 3rd job. Pay these developers their hard earned right that work hard on their games so you can play hard.



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ASSPOP
11-06-2009, 03:59 AM
lol, You guys are fucking ghey and homosexual. I'm glad that you guys get screwed over. LOL stupid fools. Why buy it when you can get it for free. I will not pay developers, its you guys that do. Thanks guys while I enjoy MW2 on my unbanned xbox 360. If i get banned I have a 2nd xbox 360. Lolz.. If I get banned from that one then it doesn't matter cause I already played it enough to get bored of it. :D Im glad piracy will always prosper, Download only? People like physical media in their hands so I don't think that will happen for a long while and when it does. Yes Piracy will always be alive. Long live Piracy. :D

edit: ohh yea feels good man.

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Blades
11-06-2009, 05:55 AM
lol, You guys are fucking ghey and homosexual. I'm glad that you guys get screwed over. LOL stupid fools. Why buy it when you can get it for free. I will not pay developers, its you guys that do. Thanks guys while I enjoy MW2 on my unbanned xbox 360. If i get banned I have a 2nd xbox 360. Lolz.. If I get banned from that one then it doesn't matter cause I already played it enough to get bored of it. :D Im glad piracy will always prosper, Download only? People like physical media in their hands so I don't think that will happen for a long while and when it does. Yes Piracy will always be alive. Long live Piracy. :D

edit: ohh yea feels good man.

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Phishing/Trolling for an argument aren't you?

What must it be like to not have a conscience or morals....


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dsav
11-06-2009, 06:03 AM
I think instead of playing this cat and mouse game, if microsoft focused more on making consoles which did not break, and accepted the hackers as a by-product of the system, they would fare far well.

agreed.



I have returned over 6 consoles because of RROD I swapped the guts.

lol i thought i was bad, i only did it once cuz my crappy falcon got rrod, now i have the jasper.

i probably would do it again.

but again this wouldn't even be needed if ms just made a solid system.

seems ms is trying to go all out against hackers atm, new sticker and 2 (can't even tell the diff from the new 838's) new revision drives that can't be hacked again.

ASSPOP
11-06-2009, 06:39 AM
Phishing/Trolling for an argument aren't you?

What must it be like to not have a conscience or morals....


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BTW, MW2 Single player sucked ass. :D