BREAKING NEWS: GeoHot's Full PS3 exploit is finally released!!!

[Zeus]

A truly landmark moment - GeoHot has released the PS3 exploit which gives FULL memory access and therefore ring 0 access from otherOS. He hopes that this exploit will IGNITE the PS3 scene and encourage other hackers to do practical things with it like on the iPhone!!!

<blockquote>
In the interest of openness, I've decided to release the exploit. Hopefully, this will ignite the PS3 scene, and you will organize and figure out how to use this to do practical things, like the iPhone when jailbreaks were first released. I have a life to get back to and can't keep working on this all day and night.

Please document your findings on the psDevWiki. They have been a great resource so far, and with the power this exploit gives, opens tons of new stuff to document. I'd like to see the missing HV calls filled in, nice memory maps, the boot chain better documented, and progress on a 3D GPU driver. And of course, the search for a software exploit.

This is the coveted PS3 exploit, gives full memory access and therefore ring 0 access from OtherOS. Enjoy your hypervisor dumps. This is known to work with version 2.4.2 only, but I imagine it works on all current versions. Maybe later I'll write up how it works :)</blockquote>

News Source: <a href=http://geohotps3.blogspot.com/" target="_Blank">GeoHot</a>

[fredward]

Damn this dude is insane. He needs to be part of the PSP scene and be the next DarkAlex.

[stanleyopar2000]

oh something will "IGNITE" alright...

SONY. and they are on Fire to put this spark out....

i bet you they have already acquired this hack and are already taking it apart to see :

HOW HE DID IT

How WE can BLOCK IT


...god forbid people can play free PS2 games and not having to worry about sony butt phucking you to re-purchase them from the PSN store......

this is only......




The Beginning

[frankmax]

this is great news but is it not careless releasing this exploit before you can have like an "unlocked ps3" because at this stage is it not like an exploit which can just be patched by sony in the next firmware update or new batch of consoles?

[dancougar]

this is great news but is it not careless releasing this exploit before you can have like an "unlocked ps3" because at this stage is it not like an exploit which can just be patched by sony in the next firmware update or new batch of consoles?

George doesn't care if it's blocked or even turns into something usable by the masses. This was a challenge. He is a hacker in the true sense of the word. You don't spend 5 weeks of your life hacking the "unhackable" so a bunch of ungrateful leeches can play copied games and emulators. You do it to prove that nothing is "unhackable". This just proves it and gives him the satisfaction and recognition of being the first. I can only imagine the "high" he is feeling.

Will this go anywhere? Maybe...maybe not. On one hand I think it would be great if you could run a linux dist that was not crippled and could take advantage of all the PS3 has to offer. On the other hand, I really don't want to see yet another system riddled with piracy....something that inevitably comes along with the great things a hacked system has to offer.

-Dan

[crypysmoker]

George doesn't care if it's blocked or even turns into something usable by the masses. This was a challenge. He is a hacker in the true sense of the word. You don't spend 5 weeks of your life hacking the "unhackable" so a bunch of ungrateful leeches can play copied games and emulators. You do it to prove that nothing is "unhackable". This just proves it and gives him the satisfaction and recognition of being the first. I can only imagine the "high" he is feeling.

Will this go anywhere? Maybe...maybe not. On one hand I think it would be great if you could run a linux dist that was not crippled and could take advantage of all the PS3 has to offer. On the other hand, I really don't want to see yet another system riddled with piracy....something that inevitably comes along with the great things a hacked system has to offer.

-Dan
I wouldnt be to worried about the piracy part. The games are upwards of 48gb.... Bluray burners are redily available to the masses price wise yet.. and blank bluray discs are pretty expensive.

On top of if you run iso from the hard drive you better be ready to have a few 1Tb drives waiting.
Id be more into ps2 software emulation, native mkv playback...

EDIT- After reading the instructions on how to get it to work GOOD LUCK people lol....

[So-Unreal]

oh good now the price of games will go up because of piracy...... and now any ps3 game maker can blame poor sales on piracy.....

[potter]

I wouldnt be to worried about the piracy part. The games are upwards of 48gb.

Really? strange that since they are all way way below 48gb.

[Crazycasem21]

This should have been given to "scene" members like DA, and or Paradox. Now that its out Sony will be cranking up R & D to close this hole down. Crap no online for those who want brew and HD loading. I got money that an update will in place online next week or so. And on games within the next two months.

[sickboy1138]

`glad I got a slim and kept my launch60g. the 60 hasnt been updated in a loooooooong time either.

[dsav]

this is good an all but still how long until ps3 backups are playable ? off hd or disc

probably still a ways off, but i hope not.

also yea he should've just kept it to himself and maybe pass it to other known hackers not just post it up publicly when theres not much use for it yet i don't think ?

oh well, long as something comes from this then it'll all be good.

[whackawookie]

this is good an all but still how long until ps3 backups are playable ? off hd or disc

probably still a ways off, but i hope not.

also yea he should've just kept it to himself and maybe pass it to other known hackers not just post it up publicly when theres not much use for it yet i don't think ?

oh well, long as something comes from this then it'll all be good.

his intent isn't piracy. he wanted to find an exploit and he did. besides that, you should see all of the idiotic comments he gets on his blog. he probably just wanted it all to end. 250 comments of non technical kids who have opinions on subjects they know nothing about. love that internet!

[Entomber]

Well.. I am glad this happened. It shows that Sony's mighty secure system does have an achillies heel. I just hope for that hole to blown up wider now.

Agreed... sony must be in full gear to close this one up. I'm sure they don't want to be like Microsoft gaming console, both Xbox and 360 were hacked realtively quickly.

If this does indeed promote piracy you can expect the cost of discs and burners to drop as the demand for them will certainly increase.

[wiggim]

This should have been given to "scene" members like DA, and or Paradox. Now that its out Sony will be cranking up R & D to close this hole down. Crap no online for those who want brew and HD loading. I got money that an update will in place online next week or so. And on games within the next two months.

The theory is quite simple, as well as the application to be honest.
Put something there thats wrong & trick (glitch) the system into thinking its right...
BAM

Sony can do exactly what he said and make implications harder, but since its a flaw in the hardware level software will NOT patch it completely.. example instead of one 40ns pulse you may need to have two 40ns pulses then a 10ns pulse then another 40ns pulse for same result. Still possible. Anyone who glitched sat cards for example know that the higher the rev the harder it was to pop - but it always did.

Making this into a modchip would be hard, but possible. 512MB flash chip USB stick with custom 'OtherOS' installer and a 3 wire modchip would be enough to 'glitch and flash' your PS3, provided someone could determine a way to get keys from the PS3 and a custom bootloader written to remove what we dont want in there, and write a program to flash the NAND's bootstrap on the fly. The 360 took a LONG time to go public with its XEX stuff.. hopefuly PS3 dont' fall the same way

[msanchez]

And so it begins. I hope the actual use of his work is close to his intended use... fat chance, I know.

[JonathanD]

EDIT- After reading the instructions on how to get it to work GOOD LUCK people lol....


After reading the instructions and looking at the picture I am questioning this even more now.

Oh well at least its something for people to play with for the time being...
Developing more interest in hacking the PS3 may actually lead to something.

Edit: After going over the source code for an hour or so (Hey don't laugh at me I'm a slow reader when it comes to code lol) I am slightly confused now....

At least all the function calls, asm, and all that check out so maybe its something to work with I may pick this up myself....

[JonathanD]

Really? strange that since they are all way way below 48gb.

I think Modern Warfare part one is a little over 5GB's.... ;)

[iLLNESS]

whats interesting is so far is ps3 owners without OtherOS are SOL :)
glad i got my 80gig BC when i did, finally.

still no reason to dust off my ps3 as i dont have any **** to probe that point near as fast as 40ns, yet.

[JonathanD]

whats interesting is so far is ps3 owners without OtherOS are SOL :)
glad i got my 80gig BC when i did, finally.

still no reason to dust off my ps3 as i dont have any **** to probe that point near as fast as 40ns, yet.

You might try this circuit, I am looking into it myself right now... (interesting project to say the least lol)

http://w140.com/kurt/coaxial_cable_oscillator.html

Not sure this is whats needed (in fact I doubt it since I found it in like 2 minutes of searching and the odds of me getting that lucky are a million to one lol)

Edit: Ahhh its way too much voltage lol at least I think it is?

[MilkyJoe]

I wonder if Sony removed the 'otherOS' option from slim consoles as they found out about this method already? Can't think why else it was removed? Did they give a reason as to why they did?

[iLLNESS]

I wonder if Sony removed the 'otherOS' option from slim consoles as they found out about this method already? Can't think why else it was removed? Did they give a reason as to why they did?

appearantly to keep costs down.

i somehow doubt thats the reason they removed it. its sony.. they have been removing features from the ps3 since its launch. the ps3 slim is no where near the same as the launch units. hell, even the last ps3 phat was no where near what the launch unit was.

i wonder if a simple script could be used for an AVR or related device to hold that point low for that short period of time, repeatedly.. if that 40ns is the only timeframe that would work, theres no way in hell your going to do it by hand with a switch :) closest you'd get with practice would be somewhere around 10ms.

[bubbleboy]

This is sooooo coool!!!!


I am getting a ****ing ps3!!!!

[JonathanD]

appearantly to keep costs down.

i somehow doubt thats the reason they removed it. its sony.. they have been removing features from the ps3 since its launch. the ps3 slim is no where near the same as the launch units. hell, even the last ps3 phat was no where near what the launch unit was.

i wonder if a simple script could be used for an AVR or related device to hold that point low for that short period of time, repeatedly.. if that 40ns is the only timeframe that would work, theres no way in hell your going to do it by hand with a switch :) closest you'd get with practice would be somewhere around 10ms.

What I am thinking is that a loop with a momentary switch might be the ticket. basically a switch that when hit runs for 40ns. It sounds more complicated then it is but the timing is bugging me... why 40ns?

I have been looking at circuits that might do what I want for a while now...
everything from cfl controls to PIC's. Somewhere around this house I have some spare PIC's....

Edit: Also it would be nice if you could put a PIC on that line and have it "listen" for when to do its thing so that it would work 100% of the time.

[MilkyJoe]

Why would removing the 'otherOS' feature reduce costs though? I can understand that excuse used for removing the PS2 backward compatibility, but this?

As far as I'm aware it's only installing and booting an operating system from the partitioned HDD. Surely there isn't any hardware involved inside older PS3's for booting into Linux?

[spooky37]

I think Modern Warfare part one is a little over 5GB's.... ;)

Cod 4 is 8.2gb once extracted ;)
Need for speed shift is only 4.3gb though.

[Ahmed_p800]

Daaamn, just look at the code, that guy is GENIUS!!! :eek:

[JonathanD]

Cod 4 is 8.2gb once extracted ;)
Need for speed shift is only 4.3gb though.

true that ! lol

[trancehead]

oh good now the price of games will go up because of piracy...... and now any ps3 game maker can blame poor sales on piracy.....

goes to show how idiotic people are.
are xbox360 or wii games more expensive than PS3 games?
grab a brain.
look at the evidence that already exsists before spouting garbage.
truth is. every single gen you pay a premium because they expect a lot of piracy, whether the system is hacked is not.
and this goes right back to sega nintendo days. dont you agree that its a little hard for the end user to pirate a cartridge?
yet you still paid that premium.
WAKE UP.
if PS3 ever succumbs to piracy, it'll simply join microsoft and nintendo systems. nothing at all will happen to the price, because you've been paying the piracy premium since launch titles anyway.

[ku16610]

Really? strange that since they are all way way below 48gb.

Not all are under either.

[MilkyJoe]

I hate it when people keep bringing up the size of PS3 games being an issue against piracy, as it isn't. The majority of PS3 games are the same size as 360 games and pirates don't have a problem with those sizes.

The exclusive games are the only ones that are larger than 9GB and they get released few and far between and even then, what's a 20-50GB game here or there when thousands of people are already downloading 20GB 1080p Blu-Ray rips?

It's not rocket science anyway, people who really can't wait are just going to pay for a faster connection.

[steplay29]

hi guys,

just refering to an earlier post saying that dark alex's right hand man Mathieulh had first hand knowledge of this,so does any1 beside me not think that he is or has been working on some sort of program or cfw to enable homebrew amongst other things.just my thoughts,what about yours?????

[shoop_dawhoop]

i'd settle for a mkv player on the ps3, i dont even want it to be pirated to play copied games.

[ufc-pride]

i'd settle for a mkv player on the ps3, i dont even want it to be pirated to play copied games.

100% agree, and also ability to play region 1 locked Bluray movies

[technolust]

so has any one tryed to run this?

iam tempted to go buy a 80gb normal ps3 now that homebrew is on the way.
lets hope this dosnt go the way of the wii which is jsut %100 piracy despite the homebew loaders that are jsut for "backups" there is hardly anything intresting.

it would be great if its possable to crack the slim ps3.

[MilkyJoe]

Yes it would, I'm hoping they find something to use on the Slim from this exploit. I'm quite confident something will show up for it after it's been explored a bit more. Such as a universal GameOS HelloWorld. Ha! I can but dream.

[trancehead]

Yes, it would. I'm hoping they find something for the Slim from this exploit. I'm quite confident something will show up for it after it's been explored a bit more.

i think it "may" be possible on slim.
the files come uncompiled.
so you need to go into linux, compile, then run the kernel exploit while 40ns zapping the MoBo point which trips hypervisor out.
maybe if it was already compiled there may be a way to run it in xmb if you trip out hypervisor directly after kernel exploit file is clicked on.
buggered if i know.
its a pity you cant swap HDD's and PS3's around, that way you could install linux on a fat PS3 and swap the HDD into a slim LOL.
i havent installed linux on mine so i dont know if install other OS simply turns into boot other OS or whether its just linux and automatically kicks out to main XMB mode when a PS3 disc is inserted.

[o'dium]

I mostly just want a PS2 and PSOne emulator for it. and of course everything else old school emulated on it...

Don't tell me that the PS2 wont come... Its software. If it was hacked around in software for the PSP to work, it can be done here, its just pazy ass money grabbing idiots. And as for the PSOne, yeah it already works... But to be fair, its a bit pants.

What I would like to see is both emulated in 1080p with better filtering. My PC can do it and the games have no issues. Time to do it on PS3, make my purchase more worthwhile.

[technolust]

I mostly just want a PS2 and PSOne emulator for it. and of course everything else old school emulated on it...

Don't tell me that the PS2 wont come... Its software. If it was hacked around in software for the PSP to work, it can be done here, its just pazy ass money grabbing idiots. And as for the PSOne, yeah it already works... But to be fair, its a bit pants.

What I would like to see is both emulated in 1080p with better filtering. My PC can do it and the games have no issues. Time to do it on PS3, make my purchase more worthwhile.

that would be sweet running old school ps1 games, i had an import ps when they 1st came out and it cost me a crap load of money back in those days.
cant wate to try ridgeracer and wipeout 2097 in emulated 1080p on the ps3.

[Shadowsan]

I'll sum it up in 4 words:

I told you so.

This is an OtherOS-only hack that opens up full memory access - nothing more, nothing less. It may provide a springboard to interrogate the isolated SPE, but at this moment in time it's only aimed at OtherOS usage.

[semitope]

goes to show how idiotic people are.
are xbox360 or wii games more expensive than PS3 games?
grab a brain.
look at the evidence that already exsists before spouting garbage.
truth is. every single gen you pay a premium because they expect a lot of piracy, whether the system is hacked is not.
and this goes right back to sega nintendo days. dont you agree that its a little hard for the end user to pirate a cartridge?
yet you still paid that premium.
WAKE UP.
if PS3 ever succumbs to piracy, it'll simply join microsoft and nintendo systems. nothing at all will happen to the price, because you've been paying the piracy premium since launch titles anyway.

The sad thing is, higher prices = more piracy... they are killing themselves. The way to fight piracy is to drop prices.


I'll sum it up in 4 words:

I told you so.

This is an OtherOS-only hack that opens up full memory access - nothing more, nothing less. It may provide a springboard to interrogate the isolated SPE, but at this moment in time it's only aimed at OtherOS usage.

I am not sure I agree when ppl say things like that. The exploit itself is accessible through otherOS. It could be used to gain information that is useful to the gameOS and cfw. Maybe thats what you meant. i am hoping devs out there with dev kits and a tool or some other ps3 version will be able to get more with their own methods and this new exploit

[McScruff]

GeoHot is a genius. He has not been working on this long and has released this... Truly amazing.

The downside to this is idiots (and yes there is a few already in this thread) who want piracy only from this and are upset an iso loader hasn't already been released.... Wake up kids with this we could possible turn the ps3 into an amazing and cheap media center (through linux) People wonder why groups don't release much to the public anymore..

On a more positive note it is great that some of the people here do appreciate this and havn't jumped into the "oo downloads are 48gb" and "oo COD MW2 is smaller when extracted" These are the true people that support the scene and it is a shame there isn't more people like that here.

Scruff

[crypysmoker]

funny seeing so many of you blab on about this not knowing anything about it. This file will do NOTHING for 99.8% of you. Read the instructions on how to gain accses... You got maybe 3 lines in right? yeah lol.

This isnt anything you people think it is. It was discovered through linux, not the XMB... so nothing there. Meaning NOTHING FOR THE SLIM RETARDS. lol It says "other OS on here 100 times, yet people still go "im gona go buy a slim for this hack".
IT ONLY WORKS IN LINUX MODE.

[panyan1991]

after reading the instructions... im thinking.... NO, not unless there is an easier way developed!

[freddser]

i'd settle for a mkv player on the ps3, i dont even want it to be pirated to play copied games.


That is exactly my feelings, i prefer my games to be originals but the ability to play my .MKV's would be perfect. Would save me building a HTPC for our bedroom or connecting the Laptop by a 10 meter HDMI cable.

[Xanxion]

If what you want is more resources available to linux, this is somewhat worthwhile, if what you really want is a custom firmware, or an iso loader, then what has been released is absolutely worthless.
The important parts of the system are still locked down, this attack vector isn't going to bear any fruits.

I'm not even going to bother going in to the technical details, if you don't believe me then don't, in 12 months time when you're still unable to pirate games for the PS3, or even boot copied/wrong-region ps2 games via this exploit, then you will have the answer without me having explained a thing.

A shame really, was somewhat exciting for a while.

P.S. new firmware update within a week.

[trancehead]

If what you want is more resources available to linux, this is somewhat worthwhile, if what you really want is a custom firmware, or an iso loader, then what has been released is absolutely worthless.
The important parts of the system are still locked down, this attack vector isn't going to bear any fruits.

I'm not even going to bother going in to the technical details, if you don't believe me then don't, in 12 months time when you're still unable to pirate games for the PS3, or even boot copied/wrong-region ps2 games via this exploit, then you will have the answer without me having explained a thing.

A shame really, was somewhat exciting for a while.

P.S. new firmware update within a week.

please go into technical details, as least to prove you know any.


!!EXPLOIT IS FOR RESEARCH PURPOSES ONLY!!

Usage Instructions:

Compile and run the kernel module.

When the "PRESS THE BUTTON IN THE MIDDLE OF THIS" comes on (the picture ive attached comes up)

pulse the line circled in the picture low for ~40ns.
Try this multiple times, I rigged an FPGA button to send the pulse.
Sometimes it kernel panics, sometimes it lv1 panics, but sometimes you get the exploit!!
If the module exits, you are now exploited.

This adds two new HV calls,
u64 lv1_peek(16)(u64 address)
void lv1_poke(20)(u64 address, u64 data)
which allow any access to real memory.

The PS3 is hacked, its your job to figure out something useful to do with it.

http://geohotps3.blogspot.com/
~geohot

i'd beleive geohot before i believe a nobody.
he's already stated what it is possible to do (Homebrew\PS2\Backups).

[Neglefarot]

Its only level 1 security, it doesnt have the key to the SPU, and he announce hes retirement so?

The guy its a genius and i never going to be that big but hes just saying, this is all i ve found, its not much and good bye.

some are already talking about isos and HDD, take it easy, remember that code dumps are only code dumps "HELLO WORLDS" are "HELLO WORLDS" and in this case you have to poke youre board to get this lv1 pass security working so chill, theyre just news.

lets see in 3 to 4 months how this is really going to help (of course when somebody else works on it).

in anyway, Thx geo! :cool:

[SolidSnake]

In-depth analysis of the hack - in english for the non-techy [like me].

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-ps3hacked-article

And I completely agree with Xanxion [except the shame bit].

[dwrecording]

I wouldnt be to worried about the piracy part. The games are upwards of 48gb.... Bluray burners are redily available to the masses price wise yet.. and blank bluray discs are pretty expensive.

On top of if you run iso from the hard drive you better be ready to have a few 1Tb drives waiting.
Id be more into ps2 software emulation, native mkv playback...

EDIT- After reading the instructions on how to get it to work GOOD LUCK people lol....


Most BR games are only 15-16 gig. Only a few big names are up on the 30 gig range And you can get BR-R for $3-4 each :D

[Ps3eolo]

George doesn't care if it's blocked or even turns into something usable by the masses. This was a challenge. He is a hacker in the true sense of the word. You don't spend 5 weeks of your life hacking the "unhackable" so a bunch of ungrateful leeches can play copied games and emulators. You do it to prove that nothing is "unhackable". This just proves it and gives him the satisfaction and recognition of being the first. I can only imagine the "high" he is feeling.

Will this go anywhere? Maybe...maybe not. On one hand I think it would be great if you could run a linux dist that was not crippled and could take advantage of all the PS3 has to offer. On the other hand, I really don't want to see yet another system riddled with piracy....something that inevitably comes along with the great things a hacked system has to offer.

-Dan

Agree hes a genius hope he ll get a six zeros job ! And why when a exploit comes out there are always the usual dorks arguin it ll be patched by sony or whatever ? Course who will use it wont give a **** if sony or whoever will patch what ....

[Cue]

appearantly to keep costs down.

i somehow doubt thats the reason they removed it. its sony.. they have been removing features from the ps3 since its launch.

oh... so you mean its a routine thing they do for sh*ts and giggles :rolleyes:

For anybody thinking this exploit is going to mean PS2 games on any PS3 by just flipping some imaginary switch then its clear you do not understand the difficulty of emulation. This exploit may open the door for somebody to create an emulator but it's the part where somebody has to create it (something Sony has not yet been able to do) that most don't seem to understand. At which point publishers (not just Sony, unless they were the publisher for that game) would be as happy as you are because they will use that method to sell legitimate buyers even more PS2 games instead of having to rehash every individual game.

As for the hack itself GeoHot is one smart white-hat hacker but the difficulty in even this hardware based hack for limited access means not many people are going to pull this off for piracy. so for now GeoHot has nothing to worry about when it comes to his exploit being used for things he didn't intend...not yet at least.

[trancehead]

In-depth analysis of the hack - in english for the non-techy [like me].

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-ps3hacked-article

And I completely agree with Xanxion [except the shame bit].

interesting read.
thanks for the link.

[Cue]

Why would removing the 'otherOS' feature reduce costs though? I can understand that excuse used for removing the PS2 backward compatibility, but this?

As far as I'm aware it's only installing and booting an operating system from the partitioned HDD. Surely there isn't any hardware involved inside older PS3's for booting into Linux?

I think a Sony rep said it would require driver development and the cost of providing hardware at a loss for clusters was something they couldn't pay for anymore.

[intertan]

wonder what this means for the slim? I would love to be able to take advantage of the cell proc. I could care less about backups.

[masterkain]

:confused: wtf :confused:

[Phrixotrichus]

We have no graphics hardware acceleration cause we dont have RX drivers for linux and we have no access to the security-spu let alone root-lvl-access on the system.

I have not been following this "Hack"-Story, but now that it is out I see that the "PS3 hacked" line was utter bullshit ....again.


Gratz to geohot for gaining mem access though.

I don`t think this will even be a starting point for further "real" hacks, but I`m not a PS3-architecture expert so...we`ll see.

Bottom line:
Nice achievement, but we`re still scratching on the very surface....


edit:
Just saw this link
eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-ps3hacked-article

Well it`s even worse than i thought :(

Makes me wonder if the PS3 will ever be hacked during her lifecycle.

[Xenogears V]

News Source: in the first post is missing. Here the link.
http://geohotps3.blogspot.com/


oh good now the price of games will go up because of piracy...... and now any ps3 game maker can blame poor sales on piracy.....

You wrong. With piracy, software house must lower prices, to sell games.


This should have been given to "scene" members like DA, and or Paradox. Now that its out Sony will be cranking up R & D to close this hole down. Crap no online for those who want brew and HD loading. I got money that an update will in place online next week or so. And on games within the next two months.

Hole is closed yet on Ps3 slim. This exploint don't work on Slim.


If this does indeed promote piracy you can expect the cost of discs and burners to drop as the demand for them will certainly increase.

Yeah. This is a normal thing. Now new pc come out with Blu-Ray burner. Become more widespread, more costs will decrease. Some matter for 2TB hard disk. If iso loader come out, many people will buy it.

[PcFish]

Isn't the PS3 formatted in FAT32?
How would Iso's be able to run off external media with the size limitations of FAT?
Wouldn't it have to be formatted to something else?

[Gundalf]

Isn't the PS3 formatted in FAT32?

No, you are wrong.

[Shindig]

i'd settle for a mkv player on the ps3, i dont even want it to be pirated to play copied games.


i fully agree. MKV support is all I would want to see!

[maya2006]

to confirm, it works! me and one of my friends tested it out, now we'll start to import some application to the OTHEROS to test it out.
-------------------------------------
to simplify things to some people, this exploit will grant full access to the memory through the OTHEROS not the GAMEOS, so don't expect piracy or ISOs loaders. this hack from Hotz were intended for homebrew only. with this exploit we can write our own little OS with full support of RSX and memory access to create emulators and applications like movie players, media centers, emu windows...etc.

that's why he hinted "you can play ps2 games", a good programmer needs to write and design a PS2 emu in c++ to work in OTHEROS as know we have full access in it. that's why he hinted "time to code, chop..chop".

about the iso loaders, CFW. don't hold your hopes on it because it won't work! period. we have a full access to the memory BUT everything is still encrypted (BD software keys, HDD keys, BD games keys... everything is encrypted) so we can't create an iso loader while we don't know the keys! even if we create and program an iso loader through the OTHEROS which is now fully opened we can't run iso's because we don't have the BD keys!. every iso dump from the torrent sites are useless because they don't contain the keys. even if you have the keys on them, you still need to know them.
in other words, if you are looking for an iso loader and such, don't wait, it's not going to happen. but if you are looking for homebrew than these news are for you.
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see you in a few weeks when i have things work. :)

[placasoft]

to confirm, it works! me and one of my friends tested it out, now we'll start to import some application to the OTHEROS to test it out.
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to simplify things to some people, this exploit will grant full access to the memory through the OTHEROS not the GAMEOS, so don't expect piracy or ISOs loaders. this hack from Hotz were intended for homebrew only. with this exploit we can write our own little OS with full support of RSX and memory access to create emulators and applications like movie players, media centers, emu windows...etc.

that's why he hinted "you can play ps2 games", a good programmer needs to write and design a PS2 emu in c++ to work in OTHEROS as know we have full access in it. that's why he hinted "time to code, chop..chop".

about the iso loaders, CFW. don't hold your hopes on it because it won't work! period. we have a full access to the memory BUT everything is still encrypted (BD software keys, HDD keys, BD games keys... everything is encrypted) so we can't create an iso loader while we don't know the keys! even if we create and program an iso loader through the OTHEROS which is now fully opened we can't run iso's because we don't have the BD keys!. every iso dump from the torrent sites are useless because they don't contain the keys. even if you have the keys on them, you still need to know them.
in other words, if you are looking for an iso loader and such, don't wait, it's not going to happen. but if you are looking for homebrew than these news are for you.
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see you in a few weeks when i have things work. :)

How did you mange to send the 40ns pulse?

[sonnyz]

to confirm, it works! me and one of my friends tested it out, now we'll start to import some application to the OTHEROS to test it out.
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to simplify things to some people, this exploit will grant full access to the memory through the OTHEROS not the GAMEOS, so don't expect piracy or ISOs loaders. this hack from Hotz were intended for homebrew only. with this exploit we can write our own little OS with full support of RSX and memory access to create emulators and applications like movie players, media centers, emu windows...etc.

that's why he hinted "you can play ps2 games", a good programmer needs to write and design a PS2 emu in c++ to work in OTHEROS as know we have full access in it. that's why he hinted "time to code, chop..chop".

about the iso loaders, CFW. don't hold your hopes on it because it won't work! period. we have a full access to the memory BUT everything is still encrypted (BD software keys, HDD keys, BD games keys... everything is encrypted) so we can't create an iso loader while we don't know the keys! even if we create and program an iso loader through the OTHEROS which is now fully opened we can't run iso's because we don't have the BD keys!. every iso dump from the torrent sites are useless because they don't contain the keys. even if you have the keys on them, you still need to know them.
in other words, if you are looking for an iso loader and such, don't wait, it's not going to happen. but if you are looking for homebrew than these news are for you.
------------------------------
see you in a few weeks when i have things work. :)

So if having full access to the ps3 hardware doesn't help piracy without keys, why was the OtherOS locked out from using all the hardware in the first place?

[placasoft]

So if having full access to the ps3 hardware doesn't help piracy without keys, why was the OtherOS locked out from using all the hardware in the first place?


To make sure that nobody starts to search around for some flaws. If you poke long enough, something will come out.

I would not say that it is not possible to getting a iso loader to run, but it would be hard to do and right now i don't know anybody who want to invest so much time, just for some kiddies so the can load all there games.

First goal right now is to get all info. we can get out of the system. How the boot mechanism works in the detail etc etc etc.....

[_-1g1-_]

Hay anybody managed to get his own dump?

Cheers