Article: Playstation Move games will auto switch bulb colors depending on action

[Zeus]

You can view the page at http://www.maxconsole.net/content.php?41616-Playstation-Move-games-will-auto-switch-bulb-colors-depending-on-action

[ThreeDog]

So if im wearing a blue shirt and meet a pack of orcs im going to have trouble playing the game because the camera cannot see the wand any more.. congratulations best feature ever.

[rddr]

http://retromedia.ign.com/retro/image/article/864/864231/rumble_int_1207260451.jpg

[ThreeDog]

What does a rumble pack have to do with this?

[Retroboy]

So if im wearing a blue shirt and meet a pack of orcs im going to have trouble playing the game because the camera cannot see the wand any more.. congratulations best feature ever.

such a sony hater aint you, lol its a feature maybe good and you slate it lol, not that i care for move, kinect for the same reasons as the wii, it wont offer any games that will keep me wanting to play in months to come.

[ThreeDog]

such a sony hater aint you, lol its a feature maybe good and you slate it lol, not that i care for move, kinect for the same reasons as the wii, it wont offer any games that will keep me wanting to play in months to come.

No i just expressed common sense, You have simply expressed your one track fanboyish mind. Want to go and view my Kinect posts i say exactly the same about that too nobody minds that do they? noooooooo it's always the same people for the same brand trying to defend their electronic devices like they mattered that much. Now to explain since its obvious people are going to be retarded and drag me into their pathetic little fanboy wars for one comment.

Playstation Eye tracks the orb on top of the Move controller, The controller colours that orb so it can see/track that orb against the background, You can change the orb to the colour of your choice but you may find some that don't work very well... The game changes the orb to blue and you're wearing a blue shirt of the right tone... What happens when the camara cannot see the blue orb against that blue shirt?

Kinect has that issue too clothing against the background, I'm also fairly sure if you had some laughs with an infra-red transmitter you could really mess with move.

[Jsameds]

So if im wearing a blue shirt and meet a pack of orcs im going to have trouble playing the game because the camera cannot see the wand any more.. congratulations best feature ever.

What a load of bull! We all know that wouldn't happen.
I can't believe you're actually being serious, jeez.

[ThreeDog]

Read above... Of all i have read about the technology that is a concern.
I cannot believe you even expect me to take you seriously.

Some people will automatically defend anything without even looking at things sensibly, They'll just fling the crap across the room whenever they feel violated by something reasonable that appears to go against their technological idealism and associated branding ;)


The PlayStation Move motion controller features an orb at the head which can glow in any of a full range of colors using RGB (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RGB_color_model) light-emitting diodes (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Light-emitting_diode) (LEDs).[10] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PlayStation_Move#cite_note-Coombes-Bender-9) Based on the colors in the user environment captured by the PlayStation Eye webcam, the system dynamically selects an orb color that can be distinguished from the rest of the scene. The colored light serves as an active marker, the position of which can be tracked along the image plane (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image_plane) by the PlayStation Eye. The uniform spherical shape and known size of the light also allows the system to simply determine the controller's distance from the PlayStation Eye through the light's image size, thus enabling the controller's position to be tracked in three dimensionsSo again verify what i said.. Blue light vs Blue Background/Blue Shirt. You pick the colour that works or the Playstation 3 does it for you... If the blue for orcs (should be green/yellow tbh) should appear and it conflicts with you or your background WHAT HAPPENS?

I am glad we got this straightened out.

[goodall]

I imagine that since the orb already changes colour dynamically, that it would show a different shade of blue to your shirt, or even to a different colour, assuming they aren't all being used by the game.

[Kr155]

did you guys miss out on e3 or something?

[ThreeDog]

I imagine that since the orb already changes colour dynamically, that it would show a different shade of blue to your shirt, or even to a different colour, assuming they aren't all being used by the game.
But if you select the colour of the orb yourself... which is an announced feature..
I doubt developers will be that clever really.

[mattias800]

ThreeDog:

You cant see the difference between the blue shirt and the blue orb? You're both blind and stupid?

[iLLNESS]

first mod i'd do on the move controller is disable the orb.. its such an eye sore i cant believe sony thought it would be a good idea.

i guess then though, the controller would no longer work.

[sengoku]

WOW it's a giant color changing ball, who knew??

but uhmm wont it work just fine in the dark?
game's are best played with nice ambient lighting anyway;)

still not getting one thou, just saying:p

[LeGioN1202]

No i just expressed common sense, You have simply expressed your one track fanboyish mind. Want to go and view my Kinect posts i say exactly the same about that too nobody minds that do they? noooooooo it's always the same people for the same brand trying to defend their electronic devices like they mattered that much. Now to explain since its obvious people are going to be retarded and drag me into their pathetic little fanboy wars for one comment.

Playstation Eye tracks the orb on top of the Move controller, The controller colours that orb so it can see/track that orb against the background, You can change the orb to the colour of your choice but you may find some that don't work very well... The game changes the orb to blue and you're wearing a blue shirt of the right tone... What happens when the camara cannot see the blue orb against that blue shirt?

Kinect has that issue too clothing against the background, I'm also fairly sure if you had some laughs with an infra-red transmitter you could really mess with move.

Common sense would also tell you that one is lit up while the other isn't.

Like you said, common sense.

Let us also forget that with all the different colored shirts worn by various people, we haven't come across this problem yet. But you know what, let us act like this is a problem when it has yet to even become one.

Common sense, am I right?

[DEDDOA]

Common sense would also tell you that one is lit up while the other isn't.

Like you said, common sense.

Let us also forget that with all the different colored shirts worn by various people, we haven't come across this problem yet. But you know what, let us act like this is a problem when it has yet to even become one.

Common sense, am I right?

Common sense would assume that the risk is there, which is why the ball can change colours to prevent that from happening, however if a game forcibly changes the ball into a colour that is not suitable or for the environment then there is potential to be a problem, thats common sense.

Common sense would say the game allows you to adapt the colour the ball changes to automatically so that is doesn't conflict and if it doesn't then it would potentially cause conflicts.

[Jsameds]

Common sense would assume that the risk is there, which is why the ball can change colours to prevent that from happening, however if a game forcibly changes the ball into a colour that is not suitable or for the environment then there is potential to be a problem, thats common sense.

Common sense would say the game allows you to adapt the colour the ball changes to automatically so that is doesn't conflict and if it doesn't then it would potentially cause conflicts.

To assume the ball will have the exact same tone, luminousity and brightness of a shirt is rediculous. I mean apart from David Hasslehoff and Elton John, nobody wears a glowing shirt..

[DEDDOA]

To assume the ball will have the exact same tone, luminousity and brightness of a shirt is rediculous. I mean apart from David Hasslehoff and Elton John, nobody wears a glowing shirt..

It doesn't matter, and obviously it didn't to sony as well, so long as the colour is similar it will make things difficult to make out, and more open to error. The whole idea of the colour changing ball is to maximise contrast so there is maximum accuracy, otherwise they would just be one of 4 colours.

[Jsameds]

It doesn't matter, and obviously it didn't to sony as well, so long as the colour is similar it will make things difficult to make out, and more open to error. The whole idea of the colour changing ball is to maximise contrast so there is maximum accuracy, otherwise they would just be one of 4 colours.

So, even if it is a problem (which it won't be) dim/turn off your lights

[kcvfr400]

I want 1 of these led shirts they sound great for cycling visibility :rolleyes:

[ThreeDog]

Common sense would assume that the risk is there, which is why the ball can change colours to prevent that from happening, however if a game forcibly changes the ball into a colour that is not suitable or for the environment then there is potential to be a problem, thats common sense.

Common sense would say the game allows you to adapt the colour the ball changes to automatically so that is doesn't conflict and if it doesn't then it would potentially cause conflicts.
Exactly, someone with some damn brains instead of an anal probe. The orb is there for a reason and its function is fully described do we really want to mess with that?

Anyway i give up its obvious certain people here will prevent you even looking at a Sony products features in-depth/intelligently without stupid accusations and nonsense now.

[Jsameds]

Anyway i give up its obvious certain people here will prevent you even looking at a Sony products features in-depth/intelligently without stupid accusations and nonsense now.

OK, lets do this your way.

1. Under normal circumstances, the orb changes colour to contrast against the background to minimise the chance of an inaccurate reading (Minimise being the key word here). This doesn't mean that it won't work if the background is similar to that of the orb.

2. The chance of the wand being the same colour as your shirt is virtually zero, as your shirt doesn't glow.

3. Hypothetically, lets say the the Eye loses sight of the wand for a few frames whilst I'm playing LotR in a bright, glowing blue shirt. It doesn't matter. The 2 accelerometers and the magnetometer in the wand are still giving a pretty accurate picture as to where the wand is and where its going. As soon as the Eye picks the wand up again, you won't even know it lost it in the first place.


That's why Move is getting rave reviews, its 4 different streams of location and movement information working in sync, providing a seamless stream of input, and Kinect (which only has 1 form of input) is proving to be horribly innacurate and therefore a pile of pants.

Next time you analyse somthing "intelligently" of "in-depth", try considering all the variables. You mods on here make me laugh.

[iLLNESS]

That's why Move is getting rave reviews, its 4 different streams of location and movement information working in sync, providing a seamless stream of input, and Kinect (which only has 1 form of input) is proving to be horribly innacurate and therefore a pile of pants.

its got 1 stream of location (eyetoy) and 3 accelerometers which cant be used to tell where it is. they are used only to reference how the move is being held and not where its going. you can try and take the move controller and throw it behind a curtain and have it jump out the otherside but the ps3 isnt going to transfer that motion. it will simply jump from one spot to another.

now, if the move had a geforce sensor, it'd be a different story.

[ThreeDog]

its got 1 stream of location (eyetoy) and 3 accelerometers which cant be used to tell where it is. they are used only to reference how the move is being held and not where its going. you can try and take the move controller and throw it behind a curtain and have it jump out the otherside but the ps3 isnt going to transfer that motion. it will simply jump from one spot to another.

now, if the move had a geforce sensor, it'd be a different story.

Exactly...

I still stand by the fact that it is a potential problem minor/major whatever. For example my computer systems have lights move changes colour it matches the lights or they overpower the bulb the console is blind..


That's why Move is getting rave reviews, its 4 different streams of location and movement information working in sync, providing a seamless stream of input.Rave reviews do not mean a thing when it comes to pre-release and hardware companies otherwise you wouldn't have people out there excited for what Kinect can do ;)

I do not trust pre-release marketing/hype its 90% fake (that's how i ended up owning halo 3). The writer is so happy to have gotten to have tried/reviewed the product early he forgets that he only got an hour with the product, Was shown what they wanted him to see and has not even given it an impartial look. There is also the issue of reviewer bullying, paid marketing, fictional reviewers.. i'll wait until its in the publics hands... i trust several people around here more than 30 industry buttsniffers.


2. The chance of the wand being the same colour as your shirt is virtually zero, as your shirt doesn't glow.
Not all colours are as bright.. now i am not one to wear a purple shirt but the purple tones are dimmer and luminance from lighting could cause problems.. Some clothing brands are very colourful and bright.. seen those illuminous green t-shirts? I could also reference PC systems for those that game in the same room.. LED lighting etc..


Next time you analyse somthing "intelligently" of "in-depth", try considering all the variables. You mods on here make me laugh.
Really?
Because here i am discussing something while someone that doesn't even know how Move works cannot even consider discussion on any potential problem, He even has to make a controller with his own specifications to prove his point.


The 2 accelerometers and the magnetometer in the wand are still giving a pretty accurate picture as to where the wand is and where its going. As soon as the Eye picks the wand up again, you won't even know it lost it in the first place.The next time you feel the need to pointlessly defend a technological aspect of branded product you know nothing about, feel free not to join in the discussion. You kids on here make me laugh. :cool:

[bryan4203]

Threedog, u are exactly what embodies why I do not visit these forums anymore. Fuxing idiot u are. You should have your mod status revoked. May u rot in hell and may god have mercy on your soul.

[Jsameds]

I have been a regular visitor here for the last 5 years. I am now deleting my bookmarks and logging off. You have finally exposed the root of why this site is failing, ThreeDog.

Non-news
No news updates for 2 weeks
Childish mods
Trolls
No ranking system
Mods who can't spell, the list goes on

Grow the **** up, goodbye Maxconsole

[DEDDOA]

I have been a regular visitor here for the last 5 years. I am now deleting my bookmarks and logging off. You have finally exposed the root of why this site is failing, ThreeDog.

Non-news
No news updates for 2 weeks
Childish mods
Trolls
No ranking system
Mods who can't spell, the list goes on

Grow the **** up, goodbye Maxconsole

Well you may not see this but Sony have admited this is an issue which is why the ball can change colour to avoid the problem occuring, thats why they didnt go with 4 fixed colours as they knew there was chance of colour clash and so the potential for the camera to run into problems tracking the ball.

Simply put, it doesn't matter if you personally don't think it's a problem, as Sony themselves do see colour clash as a problem, you can argue againsty it all you like, but Sony themselves disagree with you. Threedog only brought it up as it appears to be an oversight with games if it automatically changes colour to one that may clash and so cause a probelm Sony are aware of.

Inorder for the camera to work optimally with the ball it has to have high level of contrast, the closer the ball colour is to background colours the more chance there is for error and lag as the PS3 has to work harder to see the exact position of the ball. That is not opinion thats fact, it's like camoflage, if you can't see somthing to well that blends in with the background how do you expect the web cam to do it?

[billysastard]

I want 1 of these led shirts they sound great for cycling visibility :rolleyes:

http://www.dealextreme.com/search.dx/search.t%20shirt

dozens of styles but they need sound to light the el panels on them.