Article: PSN hackers already using stolen credit card data

[Zeus]

You can view the page at http://www.maxconsole.net/content.php?45808-PSN-hackers-already-using-stolen-credit-card-data

[capt_peo]

not cool at all...:mad:

[tech3475]

I have heard on Gamefaqs about people reporting irregularities, although obviously whether its true or not is completely different.

The question of whether its even feasible for them to have the details is dependant on the security.

Even if the data is encrypted, it wouldn't surprise me if it was flawed like the master key somehow so they could find a way to decrypt it e.g. easy password, low/bad quality encryption or keeping the software to decrypt it right next to the database.

[morazan007]

he might be a gamer, but did he have a PSN account with his credit card information?
Also, just because he is a gamer doesn't necessarily mean that the info was stolen from his PSN account, it could be from anywhere he has used his Credit Card.
Maxconsole needs to show more proofs in their "articles" before jumping to conclusions.
To be Honest, I did not go to the source, but still, even if there was proof in the sources of their articles, maxconsole should have those proofs in their "articles" as well.

[BrothaJay]

he might be a gamer, but did he have a PSN account with his credit card information?
Also, just because he is a gamer doesn't necessarily mean that the info was stolen from his PSN account, it could be from anywhere he has used his Credit Card.
Maxconsole needs to show more proofs in their "articles" before jumping to conclusions.
To be Honest, I did not go to the source, but still, even if there was proof in the sources of their articles, maxconsole should have those proofs in their "articles" as well.

Why are you defending $ony!?! after this TOTAL SECURITY FUKC UP! What more proof do you need, do you need to get robbed by someone with your details or are you gonna BLINDLY sit back and wait for proof?

[ThreeDog]

What proof can their be other than transactions taking place without the owners consent? even if we had the credit card bill to hand it's still not going to show where the credit card theft occurred.

If it happened to someone I could trust that knows his/her security that's fair enough but these early reports don't inspire me to believe stolen data is in use yet.

[Battlefield]

he might be a gamer, but did he have a PSN account with his credit card information?
Also, just because he is a gamer doesn't necessarily mean that the info was stolen from his PSN account, it could be from anywhere he has used his Credit Card.
Maxconsole needs to show more proofs in their "articles" before jumping to conclusions.
To be Honest, I did not go to the source, but still, even if there was proof in the sources of their articles, maxconsole should have those proofs in their "articles" as well.

I agree.. there is not 100% this came from PSN. It can be just a coincidence that someone may have charged him. There is too many dumbasses that use their cards on any site.
Its easy to see where its 99.99% safe or not.

I expected PSN to be 99.99% safe too because its Sony, but i was wrong.. Its normal to trust companies like Sony, Microsoft, Nintendo etc.

Sony maybe failed, but so did several major webshops the last 20 years on the internet.

I used my VISA 1000-2000 times since 1991 on internet, and its been 100% safe so far. This is because i always could spot a "bad company". I used my card on a "2 man company" in USA etc, because i knew they were trusted. Its all about understanding the technology, behavior of other people etc. Its hard to explain. ;)

Before real webshops, SSL etc..came, i shipped my VISA number in a standard text file in a password protected zip, and attached it to my mail some places..LOL

This was between 1991-1995. In 1995 internet started to get mainstream, and the security on shops got better and better. No need to send it by mail anymore. :)

[ThreeDog]

Do have to ask.. What kind of credit card thief spends $900 at http://www.drjays.com/?

[Battlefield]

Do have to ask.. What kind of credit card thief spends $900 at http://www.drjays.com/?

LOL...Looking at the content and prices, i expect only one who does that? (The one the news is about).

Whats the price for correct answer? ;)

[jase1]

LOL at the thieves.

First they were selling the database for $100,000 now they're shopping at 'Dr Jays'?

I'm still sceptical about the use of the 3 digit security needed to distance purchases, because this is not stored anywhere. Anyway good luck to them when they pick up their clothes because that address will be noted.

[saleem]

you cant use stolen credit card,whether you clone or use online,phone transaction,you are always leaving a fingerprint.

once that info starts to get used and the banks start to gather all the info,it gets handed over to the police,then you are in ****,unless you live in a country where the police are crooked and dont do anything?

that said,if you live where they are crooked,if they catch up to you they demand protection money,if you dont pay they whack you.

watch the news space for further info,you will see many articles over an x amount of time about arrests,charges and court hearings.
:eek:

[soulbwoy]

The way I see it, the credit car companies should issue new card numbers to everyone who used them on psn and play it safe.

[TheIntruder]

The way I see it, the credit car companies should issue new card numbers to everyone who used them on psn and play it safe.
They will and for free if lazy arses could be bothered...

[wiggim]

The way I see it, the credit car companies should issue new card numbers to everyone who used them on psn and play it safe.

2 minute toll-free phone call. I think my cards compramized.

They send you new card, new expiry and new CV2.. You then call all the companies with CC transactions and change your info to your new card.

OR

pay the thousands of dollars in charges added to your card by the elite hackers.

[danight]

sony should reimburse these credit card companies, since its their screw up that allowed this to happen.


I'm still sceptical about the use of the 3 digit security needed to distance purchases, because this is not stored anywhere. Anyway good luck to them when they pick up their clothes because that address will be noted.

I has aw a special on TV about how this stuff works and its actually easier that it looks.
Think a stolen credit card has $1.00 on it. There is fake stores that will except the credit card even knowing its stolen but only gives 50 cents worth of merchandise.
Then the stuff bought is sent to a dump house or a fake home. Where the stuff is either picked up or some idiot think its for some online friend in africa and send it to them directly.

Sounds dumb. but the show gave details and actually went to try and track down those who got the murchandise. A guy in africa in a free internet coffee shop used a fake photo and prentened to be a women model. Who of course needed money or items.
They met people in a chat room and had items sent to them (used stolen cards at fake stores). Those people sent the items to africa.

I was like crap... id never guess its so complex. The item they where tracking that was bought with the stolen cards was xbox 360`s. The TV show said no arrests where made. But said they did this as a business and it was a scam operation.

[bennyb]

you might not see your bank account getting touched straight away its after they have stolen your idenity passports open new bank accounts a few month down the line someone in your name running riot chuckied upto the eyeballs driving in hire purches cars going in out digfferant countrys while your stuck stroking your ps3 ha
it would be mare trying to sort it all out

[EL_CAD]

Sony king of closing the barn door after the horse is out.

[ThreeDog]

The way I see it, the credit car companies should issue new card numbers to everyone who used them on psn and play it safe.
Each card supposedly costs $3-5 not accounting for administrative charges and office hours. Depending on how many cards were compromised banks could be looking at losses in the region of hundreds of millions. There's no way they should have to pay for that.

[EL_CAD]

Each card supposedly costs $3-5 not accounting for administrative charges and office hours. Depending on how many cards were compromised banks could be looking at losses in the region of hundreds of millions. There's no way they should have to pay for that. My wife used to work for a place that sent out replacement cards. They charged Visa $25 and up to send out a replacement card.

[someoldguy]

As someone else said, many of the people affected won't bother to get new cards. There are others who either haven't used a credit card on PSN or those who (like me) haven't purchased anything on there in 2 years. That card expired long ago. But yes, if the banks and credit card companies wanted Sony to pay for for a mass card replacement situation I fully support that.

[unwanted]

Last time I had to change my Credit Cards was because of "Shopto", yes it could have been a coincidence but very strange I had a $400 transaction against my card about the same time they lost customer details...

[morazan007]

Why are you defending $ony!?! after this TOTAL SECURITY FUKC UP! What more proof do you need, do you need to get robbed by someone with your details or are you gonna BLINDLY sit back and wait for proof?

A) I don't need proof to know that my information Might be at Risk, I just wanted proof that the two cases are connected.
B)Just because I want proof of what Maxconsole affirms in their articles doesn't mean I am defending Sony. I just hate it when people jump to conclusions without knowing all the facts. Assumption is the lowest form of thinking and Maxconsole does it all the time.

[AVErsiv]

yes yes it is really the case !! i am sure that hackers use that stolen and encrypted credit card data to steal from one guy 900 $ on cloathing store ! O_o i think this PSN hack will give only some stupid people a lame excuse to try some shity exploits for online buys.

if they will ever use this stolen credit card data then it will be all of us at the same time .

[ThreeDog]

LOL...Looking at the content and prices, i expect only one who does that? (The one the news is about).

Whats the price for correct answer? ;)
GreenHammer.. I hear he puts out on the first date.

[PSPROX]

credit cards are sooooo 1970...

I think the USA is holding us back with there retarded checks and CC. Let's all move on and act like it's fricking 2011, mkay?

[AngryGumball]

First initially reading this, the first thought is "Oh no!" But after looking at it, the headline is jumping to conclusions. It doesn't really say that the gamer was a PSN user, but is worded in such a way that there's some connection. I could be completely wrong though. And no, I'm not trying to stand up for Sony, I'm just making a valid point.

The media tends to come up with conclusions that may not be true so they can have your attention, or exaggerate things to get people into panic mode, such as when an amusement park ride has a normal breakdown and the news just happens to receive that info.

[Xenogears V]

Finacial times?. Are there people read that paper. It is out of business dudes. Nobody belive them. Where are these great financial analyst, before crisis?.

[LordX]

I am sure this is not from PSN Hack!
He just lost data somewhere else for sure! or buy some crap and now trying to get money back from visa.

[soulbwoy]

Each card supposedly costs $3-5 not accounting for administrative charges and office hours. Depending on how many cards were compromised banks could be looking at losses in the region of hundreds of millions. There's no way they should have to pay for that.

Even if its $50 a card its still cheaper than thousands of dollars of unauthorized purchases on each card, because at the end of the day its the credit card company who has to eat the charges not the card holder. But those who use their debit cards are screwed.

[jeremy790]

To be very honest i think this claim is very bogus. If you really think about what all has been going on with sony and the so called pirates this is really just a nasty back lash from people who really supported there products. I was always a big sony fan and yes i will still buy sony products but as it has been said before they really kind of went overboard lately. I'm curious if this was all done buy the "so called evil hackers" to prove a point to sony. They are not untouchable and they where already aware of there security flaws.

[Spectral]

Hundreds if not thousands of people around the world are victims of CC fraud every day. This was true before the info from Sony was leaked and will be long after this is all forgotten. It's entirely possible that this guy would have been a victim without the Sony leak. It's just now everyone jumps to the conclusion it is down to the Sony leak. If all this Sony business hadn't happened he'd now be blaming whatever store he last shopped at. It's common practice for CC thieves to hold onto the details for months before using it so that its harder to track the exact time the details were stolen. They also tend to do a small purchase as a test before spending hundreds/thousands. Chances are they've had his card details for quite a long time.

[jeremy790]

Hundreds if not thousands of people around the world are victims of CC fraud every day. This was true before the info from Sony was leaked and will be long after this is all forgotten. It's entirely possible that this guy would have been a victim without the Sony leak. It's just now everyone jumps to the conclusion it is down to the Sony leak. If all this Sony business hadn't happened he'd now be blaming whatever store he last shopped at. It's common practice for CC thieves to hold onto the details for months before using it so that its harder to track the exact time the details were stolen. They also tend to do a small purchase as a test before spending hundreds/thousands. Chances are they've had his card details for quite a long time.

I so agree with you. I really don't be;eive this was about finaicial gain it was really more about business practices.

[Cantenna]

1st thing i dis was report my creditcards as lost. Your a dumb ass if you have still to do this!

[waynew2298]

CC companies will replace your CC definitely, however, the problem will be, who's going to pay for all these replacements' cost? We are talking about a hundred millions added up value, and you sure think all CC companies will just pay it out form their pocket? or they could just team up and ask Sony for reimbursement.

[ewokra]

he might be a gamer, but did he have a PSN account with his credit card information? Also, just because he is a gamer doesn't necessarily mean that the info was stolen from his PSN account, it could be from anywhere he has used his Credit Card. Maxconsole needs to show more proofs in their "articles" before jumping to conclusions. To be Honest, I did not go to the source, but still, even if there was proof in the sources of their articles, maxconsole should have those proofs in their "articles" as well. someone used my card info to get a plane ticket from china souther airline. $663.78. i canceled my card. i used this card on psn once. i only use this card to pay my bills. i dont use this car on untrusted web sites. so the only way is they got my info is very trusted F..... Sony. The weird thing is i checked airline website. i have to be one of the passengers when u buy ticket online. so they are not gonna use the ticket. they are just messing around. unless china southern airline checks id when people get in to plane. i am reading all over internet. i have zero liability. but still hopless to get money back.