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garyopa
11-22-2011, 09:37 AM
Since early 2011, PS3 users have been stuck at v3.55 if they wish to Jailbreak, but no longer!

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It seems coder KaKaRoTo has figured out a way to possibly Jailbreak the newer firmwares that been released for the PS3 since the original famous 'geohot' Jailbreak of v3.55 was released back in Jan.

Yesterday, coder KaKaRoTo produced 3 tweets out regarding Jailbreak'ing the newer v3.73 PS3 firmware, after he did so, it caused a world-wide shitstorm on all the forum sites around the world, so much so he had to release a public statement regarding it:



Hi all,

I've been flooded with questions on twitter and I've read many posts on news sites and I've seen some stuff being said on IRC and I thought I needed to clarify a few things...

First of all, I didn't expect to see my tweet front paged on all ps3 hacking news sites.. although I should have expected it.. but anyways, the "jailbreak" is not ready to be used, at all. I only tweeted that because I was excited having it working and I wanted to share my excitement with everyone. But this is a bit equivalent to the day I released that create_cfw.sh script that created the very first CFW/MFW but it still took a couple of months before a real, easy, multiplatform and fully fledged solution was released : PS3MFW.

We are currently at the same state, I have the proof of concept, it works, but a solution that anyone can use where they just click a button and their PS3 gets jailbroken is still far from ready.

I've seen people say (and even write it in their front page news) that I'll release it in two weeks after I come back from vacation. That is not true and I never said that. What I said was that for the next 2 weeks, the project is on hold until I get back.. but when I get back, then I will continue working on it, and it will then take some more time before it's ready and released.

Some asked if it's based on what gitbrew was doing/suggesting or if I used someone else's exploit or work. No, this solution is my own idea and 100% my own implementation. However, the actual solution for the full jailbreak involves some components on which I will not work, and I expect/hope that someone else will provide the solution for that.

Some speculated it might be what I spoke about back in March which I later said I wasn't pursuing by lack of motivation.. and yes, you are right. The same hack I had in March is still valid today, I told a few people about it (rms, Mathieulh, an0nym0us, and a couple more), but no one was interested in pursuing it further and actually exploiting that flaw (mainly because it requires a huge amount of work to get a proof of concept working). 10 days ago (I started on the 11th), I got bored and decided to start poking at it again, and yesterday (a lot faster than I thought it would take), I got my first pkg installed on 3.73 firmware.

On twitter, I said "do not update if you are on 3.55″, I said that in response to someone who said he would update. Because of that, people speculated that you need to be on 3.55 first, and then install something before doing the upgrade. No, that's not it, that would be useless. The purpose of my solution is to jailbreak a ps3 that is already on 3.73 firmware and which had never been jailbroken before. I told people not to update because, first of all, it's not yet ready, and second of all, the 3.55 firmware gives you a lot more possibilities than what can be achieved on 3.73.

So what is this jailbreak? I won't say because I don't want Sony to block it in a firmware update (and yes, they potentially could) before it's even released (and yes, I will release it when it's ready). But I will explain this to you : in order to run your homebrew apps, you need two things. First, to be able to install them on the ps3, and second to be able to run it once installed. I did only one of these two things.

Some may say it's not a real jailbreak, but the way I see it, there are three ‘jails' on the ps3, I broke the first one which prevents you from installing anything, so now you can install your .pkg, great, but it won't run, that's the second jail. The third jail is being able to modify the firmware (peek&poke).

The second jail (running apps) is something that can be done, but it's not my area of expertise (npdrm algo), so I will not be working on that. I am waiting for someone else to achieve it (some have succeeded but do not wish to release it, at least not for now) then I will release.

The third jail (modifying the firmware) is not possible with my method, this means that you will not have a "CFW", you will run your homebrew applications and games on an official firmware. This also means that without peek&poke support, none of the backup managers will work. So, again, my solution is piracy-free, and as always, I do not plan on working on a way to enable piracy (or even legal backups).

Overall, the purpose will be to allow people who are on 3.73 firmware to enjoy the homebrew games that were released, to play a bit with Eskiss, and to use Showtime for playing their movies. This should be more than enough for everyone.

Finally, I will conclude by replying to another question I received : Do you accept donations? The answer is yes. I do accept donations but I do not seek them out. I will include a donate button to the bottom of this post, so if anyone wishes to donate, they can do so, however, I want to make it clear that whether or not you donate does not and will not affect in any way, the release, or the progress of the work I'm doing. If you donate, you would do it as a sign of appreciation of my efforts, and not in exchange of any favors or anything crazy like that.

That's about it I think... If you have any more questions, please refrain from asking them, I get enough as it is already.. I also said everything I needed to say and I don't want to give any more information than that (for now).

KaKaRoTo


All sounds great, but remember Sony quickly sued 'geohot' after he released the v3.55 Jailbreak back in early 2011, and since then there been no progress in moving forward on the later PS3 firmware that Sony has released. But it seems 'KaKaRoTo' has made sure his 'firmware' will not allow the usage of 'pirated' games so maybe he will not have 'lawyers' serving him papers, but then only time will tell, as right now it is nothing more then a series of 3 tweets, and it will be a while before we see any released by this coder!

NEWS SOURCE: Clarifications about 3.73 Jailbreak (via) KaKaRoTo (http://kakaroto.homelinux.net/2011/11/clarifications-about-3-73-jailbreak/)

Diztructor
11-22-2011, 09:52 AM
few days old lol

but egohot claimed his cfw wouldnt be used to pirate lol how wrong was he thing that fag forgot is when you enable a ps3 to install anything then you litrally have no control how your cfw can be used.

hence sony suein the little pr1ck.

JonathanD
11-22-2011, 10:25 AM
few days old lol

but egohot claimed his cfw wouldnt be used to pirate lol how wrong was he thing that fag forgot is when you enable a ps3 to install anything then you litrally have no control how your cfw can be used.

hence sony suein the little pr1ck.

Well if you wanted to run back up software on Geohotz's firmware you had to install some patches, Geohotz himself never allowed for any sort of back ups to run.

Not sure if you where aware of the differences but just in case for future readers, the difference should be noted.

Also while Sony did sue Geohotz they didn't win, it was settled out of court and there is a ton of debate as to weather or not Sony would have won since jail breaking has already been made legal in the courts for phones. My money is that Sony would have lost and in the end lost a lot more if they hadn't offered to settle... and yes it was Sony who offered to settle out of court... usually the tactic of someone who knows they are not winning a case.

Still in the end who really won that? I mean looking back I would guess Sony really should have not sued at all, a lot of people claim that all the hacking Sony has been victim too over the months is payback for that legal action. Millions of dollars lost, PSN down for an extended period of time, plus a ton of other crap they had happen to them. Was it worth it?

Diztructor
11-22-2011, 10:35 AM
Well if you wanted to run back up software on Geohotz's firmware you had to install some patches, Geohotz himself never allowed for any sort of back ups to run.

Not sure if you where aware of the differences but just in case for future readers, the difference should be noted.

Also while Sony did sue Geohotz they didn't win, it was settled out of court and there is a ton of debate as to weather or not Sony would have won since jail breaking has already been made legal in the courts for phones. My money is that Sony would have lost and in the end lost a lot more if they hadn't offered to settle... and yes it was Sony who offered to settle out of court... usually the tactic of someone who knows they are not winning a case.

Still in the end who really won that? I mean looking back I would guess Sony really should have not sued at all, a lot of people claim that all the hacking Sony has been victim too over the months is payback for that legal action. Millions of dollars lost, PSN down for an extended period of time, plus a ton of other crap they had happen to them. Was it worth it?

IN FACT the second egohot released a cfw that allowed anyone to install anything was opening the flood gates to piracy, regardless how you look at it.

Sony and egohot making settlement was a win for both, egohot was no longer sponging off the pirate sheep and sony got a result that he agreed not to hack sony consoles again, in turn if its found he has then he has broken the agreement and will be subject to a instant lose in another court battle, just the same as a restraining order lol.

if you have a business and someone is braging to you how theyre hacking it and you know where its going to end up and what its going to allow, youd sit there and allow hackers and piracy on your product/company??

like hell you would, and its fact that simply making patches on discs to try and stop hackers IS CLEARLY EPIC FAIL take nintendo and MS, neither can prevent hackers hacking the security patches, seems sony taking legal action against them upto now (which yet not fully confirmed) kept hackers at bay with a 3.55 cfw.

as for the PSN outage, well thats also mainly down to the fags that used the courts as an excuse to think they had a right to hack, lets not forget these pr1cks didnt stop with sony, so just proves that they simple wanted to hack big companies, steal customers personal information, leak it and you somehow think this is ok, just because sony do not want hackers and piracy on its console.

may i ask then, what gives anyone the right to demand that they should???

garyopa
11-22-2011, 11:24 AM
few days old lol

Kakaroto last tweet was 14 hours ago: "Clarifications about the 3.73 jailbreak"
And his first tweet was: Nov 21, 2011 - 2:04 AM - Just under 36 hours ago!

So not a 'few days' old! :)

JonathanD
11-22-2011, 02:25 PM
Sony and egohot making settlement was a win for both, egohot was no longer sponging off the pirate sheep and sony got a result that he agreed not to hack sony consoles again, in turn if its found he has then he has broken the agreement and will be subject to a instant lose in another court battle, just the same as a restraining order lol.


Except where Geohotz left off other hackers picked up and improved on it, so lost 1 hacker picked up 20. Sony win? Not so much.



if you have a business and someone is braging to you how theyre hacking it and you know where its going to end up and what its going to allow, youd sit there and allow hackers and piracy on your product/company??

Microsoft and Nintendo did, Sony didn't and really didn't win anything out of the deal. Its a fools errand to think you can sue your way out of being hacked.



like hell you would, and its fact that simply making patches on discs to try and stop hackers IS CLEARLY EPIC FAIL take nintendo and MS, neither can prevent hackers hacking the security patches, seems sony taking legal action against them upto now (which yet not fully confirmed) kept hackers at bay with a 3.55 cfw.


Only one major problem with that whole argument, Sony didn't hold anything at bay. Pirates are playing all the new hot games out now as they patch them to run on 3.55. So since Nintendo and Microsoft are epic failures in that department one must also logically include Sony in that group (unless your head is so far up Sony's behind you can taste what they ate for breakfast.)



as for the PSN outage, well thats also mainly down to the fags that used the courts as an excuse to think they had a right to hack, lets not forget these pr1cks didnt stop with sony, so just proves that they simple wanted to hack big companies, steal customers personal information, leak it and you somehow think this is ok, just because sony do not want hackers and piracy on its console.

may i ask then, what gives anyone the right to demand that they should???

This last paragraph was so poorly written, honestly I have re read it like 3 times and the only thing I can get out of it is that somehow you are claiming I think it was ok for Sony to be hacked? Hmmm you might want to rethink that one a bit, I didn't say it was right for them to be hacked it did amuse me like watching some kid bust his balls on youtube but thats about it.

I believe my account on PSN was one of the ones that got compromised and you know what, I really am not angry at the hackers. I am angry at the company I PAID MONEY TOO and that same company FAILED TO KEEP MY INFORMATION safe. My bank doesn't have the same issue, or any of my credit cards... Seems like those would be nice juicy targets for hackers, hmmm but yet they don't have the same **** happen to them.... odd that is. Wait thats not odd, its called they have half a brain and secure there networks when they are dealing with millions of dollars. Sony of the other hand says "Well if we fire the IT staff we can save some money, probably 2 or 3 cents per console. Yes lets fire them now surely nothing bad will happen..."

Thats the real reason they got hacked, the IT staff was under funded and at the best time out right fired. So updating the server with patches just didn't happen. So Sony could save a few bucks.... Ironic I remember you saying how you didn't like Nintendo for being cheap on media playback and wanting to save about 10$ per console, lets see how you defend Sony hosing up security so badly that your information gets leaked and could lead to identity theft for what would probably amount to a few pennies per console... Now THATS cheap, not sure about you but my credit card info is worth way more then that.




Diztructor
11-22-2011, 03:51 PM
pointless arguing, you fail to see who started the hacking and if it wasnt for him leaking his findings and if he left it alone instead of braging to sony then sony wouldnt have had to sue him.

i mean its like breaking into someones house and braging to them about it, stupid idea, but if you didnt do it in the first place then you cant be done for anything.

i wouldnt give a cr@p if he hacked the ps3, it was his attention seeking like a little b1tch that i couldnt stand, and then made more fuss when he got burned by his own actions.

graf and all teh other hackers i respect, they do what they say end of, they dont go braging about it to sony.

the rest i got bored of reading, but to the security and leaking erm hello HACKERS its not as if i loged into the site and i had full access NO it was hacked, and for your information sony wasnt the only company and still those pr1cks are planning attacks at other sites, so hmm yup thats the companies fault because these pr1ck hackers want to hack.

so you fail to see that nothing is un hackible if someone really wanted to get into, so if i broke through your double glazed window and stole your tv, you wouldnt blame me, youd blame the window company for not making your window stronger.

no offence its clear you have a dislike for sony, your the type that blames them for everything and cant see the playstation as a means of gaming entertainment, you seem to take it all too personal.

chill out, it has great games thats all that matters, but why not insult sega, ea and god knows how many others that got hacked..... ohhh wait you only see sony because you have a dislike for them lol

billysastard
11-22-2011, 04:47 PM
pointless arguing, you fail to see who started the hacking and if it wasnt for him leaking his findings and if he left it alone instead of braging to sony then sony wouldnt have had to sue him.

i mean its like breaking into someones house and braging to them about it, stupid idea, but if you didnt do it in the first place then you cant be done for anything.

i wouldnt give a cr@p if he hacked the ps3, it was his attention seeking like a little b1tch that i couldnt stand, and then made more fuss when he got burned by his own actions.

graf and all teh other hackers i respect, they do what they say end of, they dont go braging about it to sony.

the rest i got bored of reading, but to the security and leaking erm hello HACKERS its not as if i loged into the site and i had full access NO it was hacked, and for your information sony wasnt the only company and still those pr1cks are planning attacks at other sites, so hmm yup thats the companies fault because these pr1ck hackers want to hack.

so you fail to see that nothing is un hackible if someone really wanted to get into, so if i broke through your double glazed window and stole your tv, you wouldnt blame me, youd blame the window company for not making your window stronger.

no offence its clear you have a dislike for sony, your the type that blames them for everything and cant see the playstation as a means of gaming entertainment, you seem to take it all too personal.

chill out, it has great games thats all that matters, but why not insult sega, ea and god knows how many others that got hacked..... ohhh wait you only see sony because you have a dislike for them lol

you do know he released the keys in response to sony suing, just like graf released his utils AFTER sony sued.

JonathanD
11-22-2011, 05:34 PM
pointless arguing, you fail to see who started the hacking and if it wasnt for him leaking his findings and if he left it alone instead of braging to sony then sony wouldnt have had to sue him.

i mean its like breaking into someones house and braging to them about it, stupid idea, but if you didnt do it in the first place then you cant be done for anything. Only in this case the house is my own... Perfectly legal, if I lost my keys I can break into my house. If I paid for something its mine not Sony's or Microsoft's or Nintendo's.

i wouldnt give a cr@p if he hacked the ps3, it was his attention seeking like a little b1tch that i couldnt stand, and then made more fuss when he got burned by his own actions.

graf and all teh other hackers i respect, they do what they say end of, they dont go braging about it to sony.

the rest i got bored of reading, I failed to read the part where Sony fucked up and didn't update essential files on there own servers to prevent this hacking, so anything I mentioned in this paragraph is just me talking completely out of my ass and I really don't know whats going on in the world.

so you fail to see that nothing is un hackible if someone really wanted to get into, so if i broke through your double glazed window and stole your tv, you wouldnt blame me, youd blame the window company for not making your window stronger. I try to equate physical security here to electronic security because I really don't understand any of what I am talking about.

no offence its clear you have a dislike for sony, your the type that blames them for everything and cant see the playstation as a means of gaming entertainment, you seem to take it all too personal.

chill out, it has great games thats all that matters, but why not insult sega, ea and god knows how many others that got hacked..... ohhh wait you only see sony because you have a dislike for them lol even though I know you mention all of the other consoles being hacked I will attempt to say your just picking on Sony because thats all I noticed... Like I said before I stopped reading after the first couple of sentence so I was unable to form an intelligent reply.

I fixed a few things for you.

JonathanD
11-22-2011, 11:15 PM
you do know he released the keys in response to sony suing, just like graf released his utils AFTER sony sued.

The only thing he knows is how to make up "facts" I mean holy **** is he out of touch with reality.

http://www.maxconsole.com/maxcon_forums/showthread.php?184489-Nintendo-admits-it%92s-holding-back-3DS-titles&p=1351365#post1351365

In this thread he claimed there where PSP games that outsold the Wii and DS system sales combined.....

I have seen some mega fans in my time, but usually they are not so blind that they would post crazy ass stuff like that.

Maybe its some one pulling our leg, I mean there is no way. lol gotta be a prank.

Diztructor
11-23-2011, 02:05 AM
ha ha you become a mega fan for having some understanding that if you go bragging to a company about hacking its console you only have yourself to blame for getting sued.

hmmm ok, no wonder we dont see many people in here.

and it seems you people cant get that hackers are to be blamed if they hack your details, yet out of all those that get hacked its only sony you blame, so if im a mega fan whats that make you, if you only seem to see and blame sony and not the rest.

you cant blame one and not the other.

but no matter how it gets worded, this is like marmite, you either like it or dont, and its clear you dont so youll simply disagree and/or drag other things into the mix when this really onyl boils down to the ps console which you dislike wooopy, it plays games ect, seems you only blame sony for problems that are your problems, you dont like it thats your problem, siding with those that have themselves to blame is just sad.

JonathanD
11-23-2011, 03:11 AM
ha ha you become a mega fan for having some understanding that if you go bragging to a company about hacking its console you only have yourself to blame for getting sued.


hmmm ok, no wonder we dont see many people in here.

and it seems you people cant get that hackers are to be blamed if they hack your details, yet out of all those that get hacked its only sony you blame, so if im a mega fan whats that make you, if you only seem to see and blame sony and not the rest.

you cant blame one and not the other.

but no matter how it gets worded, this is like marmite, you either like it or dont, and its clear you dont so youll simply disagree and/or drag other things into the mix when this really onyl boils down to the ps console which you dislike wooopy, it plays games ect, seems you only blame sony for problems that are your problems, you dont like it thats your problem, siding with those that have themselves to blame is just sad.

"lets not forget the psp had titles that outsold the wii and ds consoles added to gether and thats just a game."

Lets not forget! At this point in time it would probably be best just to ssshhh and keep your "information" to yourself as you seem to just fill in your gaps of knowledge with what I would call "information" other people might call them out right lies but what ever helps you sleep at night.

You keep trying to tell me I hate Sony, I find this really odd, since I probably own more Sony systems then you do.... I don't hate Sony, I only hate some of the stuff they have done, they have made mistakes, horrible horrible mistakes...

Even Sony took responsibility for the hacking that happened to PSN, they paid out a ton of money for identity theft protection for there own customers they apologized for it. your so blind with Sony love that even if they themselves say something is so, you would say it isn't... Simply amazing.

Diztructor
11-23-2011, 05:01 AM
lol i dont love sony, just read back a few posts to how you and other make out its all sonys fault.

loving this site so far, we dont hate sony, we love em, yet we bash them and blame them for things that has and could happen to anyone if hackers wanted.

this site isnt really much, so im gone byes:p

MadonnaProject
11-23-2011, 04:25 PM
before the whole piracy debate stars I just wanna chime in and say PIRACY IS A GOOD THING.

DEDDOA
11-24-2011, 03:22 AM
lol i dont love sony, just read back a few posts to how you and other make out its all sonys fault.

loving this site so far, we dont hate sony, we love em, yet we bash them and blame them for things that has and could happen to anyone if hackers wanted.

this site isnt really much, so im gone byes:p

Lol i think that pretty much proved their point wiht that one, tho you could have made it shorter and more ammusing with "I don't love Sony, but, I am leaving because you were nasty about Sony" :p

trancehead
11-24-2011, 05:37 AM
lol i dont love sony, just read back a few posts to how you and other make out its all sonys fault.

loving this site so far, we dont hate sony, we love em, yet we bash them and blame them for things that has and could happen to anyone if hackers wanted.

this site isnt really much, so im gone byes:p

so why do you keep coming back greenhammer?

Diztructor
11-24-2011, 03:22 PM
lol ok if you say im someone else:D is it because i dont share the same one sided hate for a company, i see a different view.

wow what a forum guys, maxconsole?? how about MAX1sidedCONSOLE views only.

still never got the straight answer, when has it ever been ok to hack consoles, instead people spin it into other things they hate about the company.

billysastard
11-24-2011, 03:44 PM
lol ok if you say im someone else:D is it because i dont share the same one sided hate for a company, i see a different view.

wow what a forum guys, maxconsole?? how about MAX1sidedCONSOLE views only.

still never got the straight answer, when has it ever been ok to hack consoles, instead people spin it into other things they hate about the company.

it has NEVER been ok to hack consoles.

it has never been ok to punish all buyers for what a few people do, thats like saying activision should turn off all the cod servers because a few idiots cheat on it, hacking is the companies responsibility to block (like it is to ban cod cheats), not the console owners.

billysastard
11-24-2011, 03:55 PM
lol ok if you say im someone else:D is it because i dont share the same one sided hate for a company, i see a different view.

well lets face facts, you post like retroboy / greenhammer and you use the same isp and ip spread as retroboy / greenhammer so i cant think why people think its you YET AGAIN;)