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Zeus
09-01-2006, 09:40 PM
Product: DS Link
Reviewer: Cyber_Sniper
Official Website: <A href="http://www.gbalink.net" target="_Blank">GBALink.net</a>

1. What is the DS Link?

The DS link is a revolutionary new product which not only is the same size as normal DS game cartridges, but also supports expandable memory in the form of microSD cards.

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It also features 4M EEPROM flash memory which does not require a battery so as to improve image compatibility. The cart is made by eDIY, who also made GBA Link. Check out another one of our extensive and picture filled reviews of one of the most innovative DS homebrew devices to date!

2. What’s in the package?

The DS Link comes in a nifty metal tin can similar to the G6 Lite series and is insulated on all sides with foam. Inside the package, you will find:

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- DS Link cart
- Instruction manual (in simplified Chinese)
- An installation disc containing the DSLink 1.0 patching software
- USB 2.0 SD/MMC/RS-MMC card reader
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The card reader is currently listed as a free gift on the packaging so it may not be included later on.

3. How to get it up and running

For optimal performance the DS Link really requires you to flash your NDS with flashme. This right here is the major downfall of the product and perhaps one why retailers will stay clear of it. If your DS is already flashed, then you may already have a flash cart solution in place, if you don’t, then you will need one to get it flashed!

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However all is not lost thanks to the MK4-mini, you can use its DS cart boot swap method to boot into your DS Link without having to flash your NDS.

When you install the patching program called DSLink, you will have the choice of English or Chinese. The usage is very simple, press add and select your image to be added to the DS Link. The only options available for users to set are language and filename conversion.

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The instruction manual states that you must fully exit the DSLink patching program before ejecting your microSD card from your computer. eDIY also suggests using Kingmax microSD cards for the best performance. The microSD card that I used was a Sandisk 1GB (non ultra).

4. On with the review

The card promises the following:

- Supports GBA game carts usage at the same time the DS Link is used
- Supports Slot-2 peripherals including the Opera memory card, motion senser, vibration module, etc.
- Uses 4M of EEPROM flash memory, does not require a battery so your game saves will never be lost
- Can play GBA games when used with GBALink Zip series carts
- Upgradeable firmware to increase compatibility and speed
- Unlimited memory support; firmware upgrades will allow microSD cards of any capacity to be used with the DS Link
- Built in moonshell, supports multimedia capabilities like music, videos, photos and ebooks.
- Customizable DIY interface

The DS Link’s dimension is exactly the same as normal DS carts when compared side by side. However, the DS Link seems to fit more tightly inside Slot-1 as a little resistance is felt when trying to remove the cart.

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<Center><i>MK4 is NOT included!</i></center></a>

Although the microSD card is top loading just like the Supercard Lite, the microSD fits quite snugly inside and so removing it will require ejecting the DS Link from Slot-1 first. The problem where the microSD seems to fit too loosely in the Supercard Lite is not present on the DS Link. It should be noted that the microSD slot seems to be slightly larger than the microSD card so you will have to align the card to the left when sliding it in.

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<Center><i>MK4 is NOT included!</i></center></a>

The DS Link’s build quality is excellent and feels just like genuine Nintendo DS carts. One thing that may worry some readers is that the DS Link currently does not support GBA games without the GBA Link as it uses Slot-1. Regarding the support of Slot-2 peripherals, a reliable source states that using a ROM image of opera along with the official Opera GBA cart, Opera could be used on the DS Link which proves its Slot-2 support functionality.

The Interface

One thing worth talking about is the menu of the DS Link cart. When you patch images, the DSLink program automatically adds an icon, Chinese name, and English name to the image that would show up inside the DS Link cart’s menu. This is accomplished by comparing the image that you add with information within the database that is upgradeable in the DSLink patching program. If the game is not in the database, the English filename of the image file would be used and displayed within the DS Link menu.

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To update the menu’s theme, drag and drop a BMP image file with the following formats: 256x192 pixels / 24bits or 8bits / filename main_bg.bmp (lower screen) sub_bg.bmp (upper screen), into the Skin folder within the system_ folder. Sounds can also be modified by replacing the sound folder within the system_ folder with other wave files of 22k 16bits. There are no settings available within the DS Link cart’s menu.

Booting the DS Link and Images

Turning the DS Link on will take about 3-5 seconds in which it would load your own theme if you added one, check for newly added images, add save files to the SAV folder, and add moonshell to your microSD card if it is not present. To boot an image, you simply press A on the highlighted game.

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The boot process will take about 3-5 seconds the first time you boot a newly added game. Subsequent boots will only require about 2 seconds. During this time, you will see a dialogue box with a loading bar that states “Now loading save file” and then “Transferring save file to DS Link’s flash memory”.

Updating The DS Link

The DS Link contains two upgradeable components: the patch program and the DS Link cart. At the time of writing, two updates were available. The patch program is updated simply by replacing the ROM.DAT file within the installed directory of the DS Link patching program. The update added more ROM information and corrected save problems for some games. The DS Link’s firmware can be updated by placing the DS_link.nds update file from gbalink.net into the microSD directly. Hold down the start button and then turn on the NDS to start the update immediately. If the update failed for any reason, you may retry the update by holding the start button and turning on the NDS again. You may also choose to burn the update file to any other GBA slot flash carts that support NDS rom files to update the DS Link. This update states that it will improve speed and compatibility with

Homebrew Performance

Homebrew was hit or miss. I will just quickly go through what I tested and let you know what did and did not work for me.

Moonshell
BeUP
NDSMail
MegaETK (non fat version)

NON-WORKING:

DsOrganize (tested all versions, grey,green,blue)
DoomDS (froze after the “survived graphic int”
ScummVM (loads then gives a zip not found error)
SnezziDS (black screens when choosen to load)

Looks like homebrew compatibility is hit or miss at the moment but I was pleased at the amount of homebrew that already works. Seeing at how much homebrew currently does work im sure it wont take much to get the others working as well once the DS-Link has sometime to get out in the hands of the developers.

GBA Rom Functionality

To have GBA functionality, you must have the GBA Link also created by eDIY. If the GBA Link is plugged into Slot-2, you can run GBA ROMS that are placed within the DS Link’s microSD card.

NDS Rom compatibility

It’s hard to list this all in this review and this information is subjected to the DS Link’s firmware and patch program. The New Super Mario Brothers’ mini game mode definitely has trouble when running as a backup image on the device.

A Flash in the Pan, Good device, needs a PASS..ME!

The DS-Link is the first DS Slot 1 mod available on the market today. If you have a flashed DS and are perhaps looking for an upgrade then the DS Link is not a bad option. There is no English support web site but the Chinese web site easily translates with Google Translate and is easy to navigate once that is done. The DS-Links pc and DS OS software is all in English so there is no hassle there either. The DS backup image compatibility is very high too, the supplied patching is very simple to use. Unfortunately the homebrew compatibility is poor; hopefully this will be addressed over time as developers understand the libraries better. The major negative of this product is that it has no built-in passme device, so you are required to have a flashed DS prior to usage or use the MK4 Mini method described earlier, something which will require extra hardware and a lot of newbies have messed up their DS (flashing)trying to do. If a future revision was to come out with a built in no pass, then this would definitely rank amongst the best.

Positives

- DS game sized flashcart, will fit DS phat or DS Lite
- Nice customizable interface with automated renaming of image files
- Save files all stored within one folder under the microSD card
- MicroSD fits snugly inside the DS Link
- Supports Slot-2 peripherals
- Sleep mode supported

Negatives

- Does not support GBA files without extra hardware
- NO INBUILT PASSME, REQUIRES FLASHED DS IDEALLY!
- Images need patching
- Slower boot times compared to the Supercard Lite (this problem should be addressed by DS Link firmware updates)
- NO INBUILT PASSME!!!

imforpbj
09-01-2006, 09:49 PM
yeah, I like to pimp the MK4-Mini as often as possible but in reality im not goin to go all Swaploit on my DS when I'm sure a better soultion will come out.

Zeus
09-01-2006, 09:51 PM
yeah, I like to pimp the MK4-Mini as often as possible but in reality im not goin to go all Swaploit on my DS when I'm sure a better soultion will come out.

Really as said, it's not ideal to 'swaploit' very annoying, this no passme inbuilt is the super major product and prevents it from becoming a widely accepted solution.

MR_COW
09-01-2006, 09:52 PM
Perfect solution? DS Link and G6 Lite. Got your G6 for GBA games and some DS that don't work, and a DS Link for more space!

imforpbj
09-01-2006, 09:59 PM
Perfect solution? DS Link and G6 Lite. Got your G6 for GBA games and some DS that don't work, and a DS Link for more space!
That is -if- you have a flaashed DS, dan.

junfeng85
09-01-2006, 11:34 PM
Mayb when they made this they have HK and china retail shops in mind. Because from what i know they offer flashing over the counter. From my retail here, some places gives you free flashing or charge you about US$7 for it.

_RoS_128
09-01-2006, 11:35 PM
Will we ever see a rom cart that can play totally clean dumps without patching? Is it physically possible that we will see RSA be supported some day, what with these slot 1 cards? cuz that would be the epitome of sweetness. :D

DeVS
09-01-2006, 11:43 PM
The homebrew section of this review is actualy taken from my review (with my persmission) and I tested a couple of more homebrew apps:

WORKING:
Moonshell
BeUP
NDSMail
MegaETK (non fat version)

NON-WORKING:
DsOrganize (tested all versions, grey,green,blue)
DoomDS (froze after the “survived graphic int”
ScummVM (loads then gives a zip not found error)
SnezziDS (black screens when choosen to load)
Lupins Zelda Platformer
DSAim
PicoDriveDS

And to add I tested download play from a flashed DS running the DS Link to an Unflashed DS and it worked (game was tetris) and then went from the same DS-Link DS to the same non flashed DS using a Superkey and Supercard Mini for multiplayer and it worked fine too.

Cyber_Sniper
09-02-2006, 05:46 AM
The homebrew section of this review is actualy taken from my review (with my persmission) and I tested a couple of more homebrew apps:

WORKING:
Moonshell
BeUP
NDSMail
MegaETK (non fat version)

NON-WORKING:
DsOrganize (tested all versions, grey,green,blue)
DoomDS (froze after the “survived graphic int”
ScummVM (loads then gives a zip not found error)
SnezziDS (black screens when choosen to load)
Lupins Zelda Platformer
DSAim
PicoDriveDS

And to add I tested download play from a flashed DS running the DS Link to an Unflashed DS and it worked (game was tetris) and then went from the same DS-Link DS to the same non flashed DS using a Superkey and Supercard Mini for multiplayer and it worked fine too.

Oh yeah, I forgot to mention cross cart compatibility. Seems like DS Link works with the Supercard SD/Lite and with genuine cartridges with Download play or wifi multiplayer. Just tested the rumble pack for metroid with Starfox Command on the DS Link and the rumble feature worked like a charm! :)

Slowking
09-02-2006, 06:13 AM
I have an old M3 CF and a passkey 2. As soon as I get a DS Lite I'll need something smaller, so this thing would be a good choice since I could flash my DS, using the old equipment I allready got. But the missing GBA-Support makes it a no-go imo. If it won't be cheap as hell I'll go with a M3 Lite only because I don't really need the Opera Ram pack or such things.
Maybe somebody could make a new Flashme that kicks the Slot 1 into GBA-Mode like the current kicks Slot 2 into DS mode. Then we could play GBA-Backups from Slot 1. (but then again I'm not a dev so I don't know if it's even possible)

Just another thought for booting the DS Link up: Maybe an AR would work, too. It does the same as the MK4 Mini. You can boot another Slot 1 card through it. Maybe even one without a passme. Has anyone the equipment to test it out?

dreary79
09-02-2006, 10:45 AM
Could you maybe update your review with more DS game compatability. I'm very curious about games like Castlevania, Animal Crossing, Ultimate Spiderman, Prime Hunters...

MR_COW
09-02-2006, 11:37 AM
That is -if- you have a flaashed DS, dan.Well, I guess I left that out. You would also get a passcard3 for the G6 to flash it. They are like 15 bucks though, pretty cheap.

t0m1th3
09-02-2006, 11:46 AM
Originally Posted by MR_COW
Perfect solution? DS Link and G6 Lite. Got your G6 for GBA games and some DS that don't work, and a DS Link for more space!

Sounds it, but hopefully I will get a ds-x and g6 lite.

The ds link sounds a lot better than it did prior to reading this review, and I think what it achieves is very impressive, and it is definately not a disadvantage that you need extra hardware to play gba games, as theoretically, if you need a passme to play ds games through the gba slot, you need a passme in the gba slot to play games from the ds slot.

Cyber_Sniper
09-02-2006, 12:46 PM
Could you maybe update your review with more DS game compatability. I'm very curious about games like Castlevania, Animal Crossing, Ultimate Spiderman, Prime Hunters...

Metroid:
Total compatibility

Animal Crossing:
Total compatibility (no slowdowns at all)

Castlevania:
Opening video lags, sound is not affected

Final Fantasy 3:
Total compatibility

Starfox US/JAP:
Total compatibility, works with rumble pak

dreary79
09-02-2006, 01:57 PM
Metroid:
Castlevania:
Opening video lags, sound is not affected
What speed is your flash card? I wonder if a faster one would make a differance. Is it formated in fat32 or fat16?

Cyber_Sniper
09-02-2006, 02:01 PM
What speed is your flash card? I wonder if a faster one would make a differance. Is it formated in fat32 or fat16?
Fat 16. I don't think it's the card as the same rom doesn't lag when patched and used in the Supercard Lite.

It's a Sandisk 1GB. I might try it on the Kingmax 512MB high speed later.

dreary79
09-02-2006, 02:02 PM
Does DSLink support fat32? it is faster.

gcmospeada
09-02-2006, 04:41 PM
can anyone test this?:

1. full charge battery time till it drains out with an M3 adapter
and
2. Full charge battery time till it drains out with a DS-Link


i cant understand how that particular aspect was not taken care on a review.

_RoS_128
09-02-2006, 08:31 PM
Oh yeah, I forgot to mention cross cart compatibility. Seems like DS Link works with the Supercard SD/Lite and with genuine cartridges with Download play or wifi multiplayer.

Does that mean all Download play games are supported (ie Mario Kart as well) or just some?

FifthE1ement
09-03-2006, 10:51 PM
DS Download play won't work for all games as the games still need to be patched. Hopefully the DS-X and future Slot 1 flashcarts will not have this problem.

FifthE1ement :cool:

_RoS_128
09-04-2006, 10:08 PM
@ FifthE1ement

thanks! :D that helps tremendously! the DS-X is looking better and better, i'm having trouble waiting for the review :)

BobbyBlunt
09-06-2006, 08:41 AM
I'm a bit aprehensive about this product.
Is this product made by the same people behind the Ultraflashpass?

the website http://www.ds-links.com/ has exactly the same design as http://www.ndsgba.net/
both websites link to each other as affiliates.
both products come out of the same district of Hong Kong (One is an actual address, the other a PO box)
DS-Link is being sold at http://www.minionlinestore.com/ (The partner of Ultraflashpass)

The forum for the Ultraflashpass has been closed. http://www.takeforum.com/wwwndsgbanet/inde...um=wwwndsgbanet Was this because of all the complaints about the product.
The dslink forums look very familiar aswell http://www.takeforum.com/dslink/
So is that the end of support for the Ultraflashpass, now that DS-link is out?
How long will DS-Link be supported for in the future?

DeVS
09-06-2006, 11:59 AM
I'm a bit aprehensive about this product.
Is this product made by the same people behind the Ultraflashpass?

the website http://www.ds-links.com/ has exactly the same design as http://www.ndsgba.net/
both websites link to each other as affiliates.
both products come out of the same district of Hong Kong (One is an actual address, the other a PO box)
DS-Link is being sold at http://www.minionlinestore.com/ (The partner of Ultraflashpass)

The forum for the Ultraflashpass has been closed. http://www.takeforum.com/wwwndsgbanet/inde...um=wwwndsgbanet Was this because of all the complaints about the product.
The dslink forums look very familiar aswell http://www.takeforum.com/dslink/
So is that the end of support for the Ultraflashpass, now that DS-link is out?
How long will DS-Link be supported for in the future?

It is made by the same person. I talked to the guy about the ndsgbanet web site and this is what he had to say:


www.NDSGBA.net will not down. Since we have a little problems about the software development (The main programmer quit), so we temporary close the forum.

Now we are already out source the programming work into outside company to help us. Once the new updated software is finish, we will re-open the forum. We just give out the hardware and software source code into outside company, we think they need about a week to develop a new software.

We will continue the Ultra Media Card product. The new version of Ultra Media Card is under development (simular product to DSLink).

lenselijer
09-06-2006, 02:27 PM
I thought the official website is http://www.ds-link.net

DeVS
09-06-2006, 03:08 PM
DS-Links.com seems to be the english support forums.

Cyber_Sniper
09-06-2006, 05:54 PM
Does that mean all Download play games are supported (ie Mario Kart as well) or just some?

I have never had a problem with download play with the following games:

Mario Kart
Tetris
Starfox Command

pte
09-13-2006, 06:56 AM
www.ds-links.com is a fraud

I contacted the Chinese guy from www.dslink.cn (real site, even an English version is there) and he is in charge of the international trade of the product. That ds-link.net is for the Chinese customerbase and has no English support.

He said that they are gonna release an update in every 2-4 weeks, depending on if it's necessary or not and that they don't have a wholeseller outside China. He also checked that .com site and confirmed it is a 100% fraud and has nothing to do with them. Dunno what is up with that site, but it's very fishy.

SMIDSY
05-01-2007, 01:35 PM
does anyone have a convertor that can convert any sav to supercard fromat? or at leat 256kb?

any help appreciated