Brick Prevention Methods and Possible Solutions

[macflames]

sorry for the double post but. any help?

[Edge4o7]

Thanks for the guide. Good to know I have options if I screw up.

[tech3475]

Alright im gonna try install bootmii as boot2, heres the guide i followed. it should say the programs i installed there.

"DowngraderIOS35.dol
downgraded to IOS35
LoadMii
Wad Manager 1.4
Installed IOS35.wad.
Selected IOS35 when it asked what IOS to use.
Installed the CIOSv7.wad.
used IOS249.
Installed IOS36.wad & HBC.wad
installed IOS60patched.wad
cios rev10 installer
Ran IOSdowngrader from HBC
Ran CIOSCORP and install
preloader 0.29 and failed in the update, which is where it went wrong

Here's what I suggest you do:
1. download and install using wad manager system menu 4.1 and a trucha signed IOS 60
2. Install CIOS rev14
3. install preloader or startpatch
4. never update preloader

I can say where to get the system menu although I know there are some guides on gbatemp floating around.

[SifJar]

NOTE: ONLY do an online methods for system menu 4.2, 3.x/4.x have been removed from the servers so offline methods only.


NOTE: Nintendo are sometimes removing System menu IOS files from the server for online methods, make sure to check that they have not been removed, see: http://wiibrew.org/wiki/IOS_History

uh, no. Every single file that has ever been on NUS is still on NUS. Some have been updated to non-working revisions, to save space on updated Wiis, and when crappy apps like waninkoko's pathetic "safe" updaters try to install them they install the newest, non-working revision and brick, but that is due to complete stupidity on the part of the coder. You should NEVER use Waninikoko's "safe updaters" or "downgraders" in ANY circumstance.

I just flicked through your post, so I hope the rest of it is better...

[tech3475]

uh, no. Every single file that has ever been on NUS is still on NUS. Some have been updated to non-working revisions, to save space on updated Wiis, and when crappy apps like waninkoko's pathetic "safe" updaters try to install them they install the newest, non-working revision and brick, but that is due to complete stupidity on the part of the coder. You should NEVER use Waninikoko's "safe updaters" or "downgraders" in ANY circumstance.

I just flicked through your post, so I hope the rest of it is better...

I sourced my information so give me a break.

I always said this was work in progress anyway and I welcome feedback.

The reason why I said to only use offline methods is because of risk, I wasn't sure whether the older revisions were on NUS (i.e. Nintendo having common sense), I also wasn't sure if the updaters used the latest version so by default it would brick.

The upgraders/downgraders in the past were relatively safe but I was worried that people would still use these (since they are no longer safe in their online modes) I decided to play it safe.

[SifJar]

I sourced my information so give me a break.

I always said this was work in progress anyway and I welcome feedback.

The reason why I said to only use offline methods is because of risk, I wasn't sure whether the older revisions were on NUS (i.e. Nintendo having common sense), I also wasn't sure if the updaters used the latest version so by default it would brick.

The upgraders/downgraders in the past were relatively safe but I was worried that people would still use these (since they are no longer safe in their online modes) I decided to play it safe.

Apologies if I appeared rude, I just feel that with a topic such as bricking, all information should be as accurate as possible. The upgraders/downgraders are never safe, they're stupid and pointless, and rather dangerous. I would strongly advise against using them ever.

Also, the applications you list for fixing bricks (Any Region Changer and waninkoko's tools) are all bad ideas TBH. The best tool for fixing most bricks would be dop-Mii. It can reinstall System Menu if its broken, and any IOS. AnyTitle Deleter is useful for deleting channels with bad banners causing banner bricks. SettingsReplaceMod can be useful to those with messed up SysConf (I think this is caused by out of region disc updates). Theme related bricks can be fixed by installing a different theme with MyMenuify.

I think it may be a good idea to list types of bricks and how each happens, e.g.

Banner brick: Installing a custom channel with a corrupted banner, or installing a poorly made theme with MyMenuify
Semi-brick: Installing out-of-region System Menu
Full brick: Multiple ways. Corrupted SysConf, corrupted/deleted System Menu or System Menu IOS

[tech3475]

Like I said, I need to update it. I hope to get round to it in a week or so.

for the record, when I wrote this guide, those tools I mentioned were the only good ones I was aware of.

Thanks for mentioning this stuff, I'll use them for my next major rewrite.

Also, I did mention the types of brick, but not how they happen.

[SifJar]

Sorry, I still didn't read it too thoroughly

BTW, I noticed you told someone above not to update preloader. Any reason why? AFAIK, it is preferable to update it to Priiloader.

[tech3475]

I have changed it, this was back when priiloader was just out and I wasn't sure what the quality was like.