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    Quote Originally Posted by diecast View Post
    yeah no wave 4 for me. i'd be interested in seeing what firmwares where banned. of the people i know the only person not banned has a benq with 1.51. everyone i know with 1.6 or 1.61 got the ban hammer. and before i get flammed i'm not saying i know anything i'm just tossing out what has happened to me and the people that i modded.
    Not actually true, my friends all had 1.51 and 1.6 and got banned. I'm using a 1.61 and haven't got banned but i didn't play any wave 4 games online but who knows honestly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sirxlaughs View Post
    It's not about wave 4. Myself and a few others I know didn't play wave 4 games. You should check if you've been flagged.
    Yeah i check again haven't got banned and hope it doesn't. If i do i couple of 360's i so i'm good if i just curious to know if it was the wave 4 games because abgx couldn't really check and patch them until now and the new call of duty is a wave 4 but forza 3 isn't. so i play street fighter forza halo odst and havent got ban so well see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vital2 View Post
    Does anyone think that C4eva will Upload the new ban free firmware this month?
    there is no firmware undetectable
    All three boxes running by c4eva with new fw has been banned at the same time. He already failed to cheat M$

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    Quote Originally Posted by sirxlaughs View Post
    I don't think it's the firmware itself that is detectable. I don't know how any of that stuff works, but I think MS has found a way to send an inquiry to the drive. Depending on the drive's behavior, MS can tell if the firmware is original or not. That's my best guess so far.
    Either way, it's always a cat and mouse game. It seems that this time, Microsoft has been flagging consoles for months in preparation for this pre-holiday ban.
    For a start here's the public logs from a modded xbox 360 http://xbins.org/xblive/

    Quote Originally Posted by sirxlaughs View Post
    There's a ongoing compilation at xbox-scene of people filling out firmware, drive type, and other things.
    Can't trust them at all some of these people have been caught out, often the ones you find on xbox.com claiming they've done nothing wrong.

    Quote Originally Posted by Signa View Post
    At this point, I'm sure you are correct. There is no way that a million people were this careless and played games early, or had bad stealth on their disks. They banned 3% of all consoles sold, which can't be much lower than the total number of modded consoles. I don't know what the rate of modded consoles are on any system, but I can't imagine that the Xbox was that high because of the high risk and complications involved in modding the system.
    There are so many factors and issues here its easy to blame the firmware when we have too much/not enough information and plenty of misinformation, its a flawed scene. I doubt we'll ever know without c4eva saying something which is why its just not worth the risk.

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    I'm also starting to believe ms has been preparing for this for some time now. Seems ms wasn't playing "cat and mouse" with hackers, but something more along the lines of chess, and this is starting to look like checkmate. I'm sure that hackers will find a way, but a lot of people are going to be more cautious now about modding. If you can afford to get yourself 2 360s then that's probably the only way to go about it safely.

    This fight is unlike sony vs the psp scene.

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    wasnt the last one supposedly un-detectable too? Just sayin....
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    Quote Originally Posted by grapeape View Post
    wasnt the last one supposedly un-detectable too? Just sayin....
    Well he obviously made some modifications to the firmware to make sure only stealthed backups were booted, but it seems these addons backfired and MS was able to use them to detect the firmware. I think he is just getting rid of these "add on" features, so now it is up to the user to use stealth backups and not the firmware to decide if it is stealth or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wrathchild View Post
    Yea they got me too and I was surprised. I haven't played any of my backups or even my legit ones online since my account expired over six months ago yet they banned me. It's funny though that I upgrade to 1.61 and a few days later I get banned.
    Surprize! surprize!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by sirxlaughs View Post
    It's not about wave 4. Myself and a few others I know didn't play wave 4 games. You should check if you've been flagged.
    i was still running 1.6 on my lite on never played a wave 4 game either i was waiting for 1.7 to come,i also had a legit copy of mw2 granted got it a few days early.funny thing is got my copy last friday got banned on saturday!!seems rather funny that consoles getting banned just as mw2 comes out.
    but there is a silver lining to havin 1.6 now i dont have to get my banned machine reflashed i can just patch all the games to wave 3 and play off line.and yes i have a seperate hdd so no worries there either!!!
    Last edited by UKR JOKER; 11-15-2009 at 02:51 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msanchez View Post
    Seems ms wasn't playing "cat and mouse" with hackers, but something more along the lines of chess, and this is starting to look like checkmate.
    It's only Mate since people can still play copies just fine. They just can't play them online. Checkmate is when they can stop both such as what the PS3 has been able to do (so far).

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    FFS some folks eh?
    Wave 4 on discs is not a new security and it's not a new protection.

    If people can't even grasp the basics why is anyone even listening to what they have to say regarding bans?

    As for taking the word of someone who's read something on another forum who in turn knows someones uncle

    These are public forums. The breeding ground for mis-information, and lets face it lies.

    After the first ever wave of bans I read avidly every post trying to find a patern. It never existed online then and it certainly doesn't exist now.

    I have test units myself on live and sufficed to say the only things I trust are those I KNOW to be true.

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    MS will find a way to detect it eventually.

    No way will it be ban-resistant.

    MS is not stupid, they will get their hands on this firmware, and find some vulnerability on it. Detect it on live. Then BAM new ban wave.

    Let face it, its just not worth it. Buy a new box for legit games and online. Use old modded box for backups only. Thats the only real Ban-resistant way to play.

    After this ban wave, one million people will have to buy new Xbox 360's to get back on live and regain HDD compatibility. Who in the right mind is going to re-flash with this so-called undetectable FW and play on live again after getting banned before? Who will risk it again? Not me.

    Thats like a mouse getting caught in a trap breaking both of its back legs. Only to survive to fall for the same trap all over again.

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    People with very old firmware that i know have been spared, I belive their firmware was stealth but without the splitvid hack that reads the same layer twice and also without the 359 mdodification. They needed to make al games splitvid with abxg and adjust the 359 angle manually. Two of them only used originals on their 360 and 1 used only copys not one original, all of them were Live junkies.

    I am not sure if Ixtreme reads the video partition twice from the same layer on all games including originals and backups with splitvid. Because that could explain alot, it takes some time to ajust the laser to read the second layer, That's why 360's that do this faster because they only need to read the same layer again are getting caught. The new firmware only needs to test the DVD once when you try a game and if the timing between reading the videopartition from diffrent layers is to fast the firmware flags the 360 and after you connect to Live the 360 Firmware talks to the Live Service, maybe even on another IP just to confuse us more, who knows maybe you don't even need to login, the firmware could talk to microsoft as soon you're connected to a Network with an Internet connection.

    The one thing I am 100% sure about is the New Firmware/Dash, several of my friends flashed back to original DVD Firmware before updateing to the update that came with Modern Warfare 2, the same update you get when you connect to the Live service. None of them were banned. So the new update gives the 360 some new Offline/Online instruktions that helps ms with the bannings.

    So if you're a chicken and haven't updated yet to the newest dashbord you will be able to reverse your DVD firmware to original, except the LiteOn because there isn't an original for the LiteOn.

    The people I was talking about that wasn't banned all had Samsung drives, They had Ixtreme 1.2 or something. It was before the splitvid and 359 angle...

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    Smile Wtf

    This news is old, How about posting directions to the 1934 World's Fair, that is about as useful.
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    firmware

    So C4eva won't make another firmware that would maybe be unbannable?

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