Yeah i check again haven't got banned and hope it doesn't. If i do i couple of 360's i so i'm good if i just curious to know if it was the wave 4 games because abgx couldn't really check and patch them until now and the new call of duty is a wave 4 but forza 3 isn't. so i play street fighter forza halo odst and havent got ban so well see.
For a start here's the public logs from a modded xbox 360 http://xbins.org/xblive/
Can't trust them at all some of these people have been caught out, often the ones you find on xbox.com claiming they've done nothing wrong.
There are so many factors and issues here its easy to blame the firmware when we have too much/not enough information and plenty of misinformation, its a flawed scene. I doubt we'll ever know without c4eva saying something which is why its just not worth the risk.
I'm also starting to believe ms has been preparing for this for some time now. Seems ms wasn't playing "cat and mouse" with hackers, but something more along the lines of chess, and this is starting to look like checkmate. I'm sure that hackers will find a way, but a lot of people are going to be more cautious now about modding. If you can afford to get yourself 2 360s then that's probably the only way to go about it safely.
This fight is unlike sony vs the psp scene.
wasnt the last one supposedly un-detectable too? Just sayin....
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Well he obviously made some modifications to the firmware to make sure only stealthed backups were booted, but it seems these addons backfired and MS was able to use them to detect the firmware. I think he is just getting rid of these "add on" features, so now it is up to the user to use stealth backups and not the firmware to decide if it is stealth or not.
i was still running 1.6 on my lite on never played a wave 4 game either i was waiting for 1.7 to come,i also had a legit copy of mw2 granted got it a few days early.funny thing is got my copy last friday got banned on saturday!!seems rather funny that consoles getting banned just as mw2 comes out.
but there is a silver lining to havin 1.6 now i dont have to get my banned machine reflashed i can just patch all the games to wave 3 and play off line.and yes i have a seperate hdd so no worries there either!!!
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FFS some folks eh?
Wave 4 on discs is not a new security and it's not a new protection.
If people can't even grasp the basics why is anyone even listening to what they have to say regarding bans?
As for taking the word of someone who's read something on another forum who in turn knows someones uncle
These are public forums. The breeding ground for mis-information, and lets face it lies.
After the first ever wave of bans I read avidly every post trying to find a patern. It never existed online then and it certainly doesn't exist now.
I have test units myself on live and sufficed to say the only things I trust are those I KNOW to be true.
MS will find a way to detect it eventually.
No way will it be ban-resistant.
MS is not stupid, they will get their hands on this firmware, and find some vulnerability on it. Detect it on live. Then BAM new ban wave.
Let face it, its just not worth it. Buy a new box for legit games and online. Use old modded box for backups only. Thats the only real Ban-resistant way to play.
After this ban wave, one million people will have to buy new Xbox 360's to get back on live and regain HDD compatibility. Who in the right mind is going to re-flash with this so-called undetectable FW and play on live again after getting banned before? Who will risk it again? Not me.
Thats like a mouse getting caught in a trap breaking both of its back legs. Only to survive to fall for the same trap all over again.
People with very old firmware that i know have been spared, I belive their firmware was stealth but without the splitvid hack that reads the same layer twice and also without the 359 mdodification. They needed to make al games splitvid with abxg and adjust the 359 angle manually. Two of them only used originals on their 360 and 1 used only copys not one original, all of them were Live junkies.
I am not sure if Ixtreme reads the video partition twice from the same layer on all games including originals and backups with splitvid. Because that could explain alot, it takes some time to ajust the laser to read the second layer, That's why 360's that do this faster because they only need to read the same layer again are getting caught. The new firmware only needs to test the DVD once when you try a game and if the timing between reading the videopartition from diffrent layers is to fast the firmware flags the 360 and after you connect to Live the 360 Firmware talks to the Live Service, maybe even on another IP just to confuse us more, who knows maybe you don't even need to login, the firmware could talk to microsoft as soon you're connected to a Network with an Internet connection.
The one thing I am 100% sure about is the New Firmware/Dash, several of my friends flashed back to original DVD Firmware before updateing to the update that came with Modern Warfare 2, the same update you get when you connect to the Live service. None of them were banned. So the new update gives the 360 some new Offline/Online instruktions that helps ms with the bannings.
So if you're a chicken and haven't updated yet to the newest dashbord you will be able to reverse your DVD firmware to original, except the LiteOn because there isn't an original for the LiteOn.
The people I was talking about that wasn't banned all had Samsung drives, They had Ixtreme 1.2 or something. It was before the splitvid and 359 angle...
This news is old, How about posting directions to the 1934 World's Fair, that is about as useful.
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So C4eva won't make another firmware that would maybe be unbannable?