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Thread: Team Blur claim Final Fantasy XIII is actually 720p on 360?

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    sony fanboys are on a crusade to prove that there is something wrong with the 360 version even before it is released, hell not even Square itself can be trusted when it comes to pre-release information, people need to stop paying attention to them and just wait until the game is released.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cue View Post
    fair enough but I just found it hilarious that people accepted this one line.

    "check the latest official shots that are confirmed NOT fake"

    which is completely untrue. It's not the latest and actually confirmed fake. they took that over the latest information from Square Enix themselves.
    Well even i was suckered by that. Like i said it doesn't really matter and won't.
    My only worry right now is having to buy yet another console to preserve 3.15, i could use the slim but Sony revising the motherboard also worries me

    I may just end up with both copies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trashcat View Post
    sony fanboys are on a crusade to prove that there is something wrong with the 360 version even before it is released, hell not even Square itself can be trusted when it comes to pre-release information, people need to stop paying attention to them and just wait until the game is released.
    Quite the opposite I'd say, there is a crusade by 360 fanboys to prove that it isn't inferior in some minor insignificant way with false information and refuting the FFXIII developer itself.

    There isn't anything wrong with it, just a lower resolution and no AA it's not broken but it's a real shame you weren't as vocal before when it was a PS3 game being compared unfavourably before release.

    http://www.maxconsole.net/forums/sho...d.php?t=130590
    Typical, you were more than happy to chuck sh*t at sony and trust Gamespot then, but now you don't trust Square itself and blame the "PS3 fanboys" for a conspiracy

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThreeDog View Post
    Well even i was suckered by that. Like i said it doesn't really matter and won't.
    My only worry right now is having to buy yet another console to preserve 3.15, i could use the slim but Sony revising the motherboard also worries me

    I may just end up with both copies.
    we all were. I'm still on 3.10 I think, haven't been online for a while. though I doubt I'll muster up the courage to break my PS3 open and start probing it anyway.
    Last edited by Cue; 02-23-2010 at 02:28 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThreeDog View Post
    The 576p shots are said to have been from a poor source, these may be doctored but the correct information still isn't out there.
    "Pixel Counters" can tell the difference between native 576p 2xMSAA and 720p 2xMSAA that's been downsampled in a poor capture. When the HUD (which can run at a different resolution to the realtime 3D) clearly has full 720p sharpness in the same Square-Enix captures, there's no reason to blame a poor capture which is what I assume you mean.
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    Maxconsole - why do you care so much about this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brandogg View Post
    Maxconsole - why do you care so much about this?
    3,516 forum page views on the last thread - £$£$

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cue View Post
    Quite the opposite I'd say, there is a crusade by 360 fanboys to prove that it isn't inferior in some minor insignificant way with false information and refuting the FFXIII developer itself.

    There isn't anything wrong with it, just a lower resolution and no AA it's not broken but it's a real shame you weren't as vocal before when it was a PS3 game being compared unfavourably before release.

    http://www.maxconsole.net/forums/sho...d.php?t=130590
    Typical, you were more than happy to chuck sh*t at sony and trust Gamespot then, but now you don't trust Square itself and blame the "PS3 fanboys" for a conspiracy
    Didn't Gamespot base their opinion on a review they did of the game? No one has reviewed the 360 version yet. When the reviews come in, it should (but unfortunately won't) shut the fanboys up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sirxlaughs View Post
    Didn't Gamespot base their opinion on a review they did of the game? No one has reviewed the 360 version yet. When the reviews come in, it should (but unfortunately won't) shut the fanboys up.

    you're right, it was a review and he took their word, no screen comparisons, no videos. square releases what they say is a screen of the 360 game to the public and he crys foul. why take gamespots word for it yet not trust square for providing you with pictures to make your own judgement.

    I could understand the game developers trying to not show an inferior version of the game to the public like they initially did with 360 FFXIII and PS3 bayonetta but I don't understand why they would intentionally make it look worse than its real state. To me they wouldn't, so not trusting Squares 576p 360 shots but trusting Gamespots word on Fallout is what I found a little irrational about that. I could be wrong though and Square might have gone completely insane.

    You're also right about no reviewers having it yet but I can say that a lot of people have had a hands on with it already, even Leona Lewis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cue View Post
    you're right, it was a review and he took their word, no screen comparisons, no videos. square releases what they say is a screen of the 360 game to the public and he crys foul. why take gamespots word for it yet not trust square for providing you with pictures to make your own judgement.

    I could understand the game developers trying to not show an inferior version of the game to the public like they initially did with 360 FFXIII and PS3 bayonetta but I don't understand why they would intentionally make it look worse than its real state. To me they wouldn't, so not trusting Squares 576p 360 shots but trusting Gamespots word on Fallout is what I found a little irrational about that. I could be wrong though and Square might have gone completely insane.

    You're also right about no reviewers having it yet but I can say that a lot of people have had a hands on with it already, even Leona Lewis.
    I haven't been keeping tabs on his other posts, but I only see him saying that he's going to wait for a review. I'm not sure how that qualifies as crying foul. Having trust in a trusted review site is one thing. Being skeptical about sketchy information floating around the net is another. I'm expecting the 360 version to be inferior, but I just wish Square would make up their minds about it. First they say it'll be identical except for the compressed movies. Then they doctor up some photos. Then they release authentic ones that show the versions are not identical. Seems like it's better to let the fanboys bicker (unless you enjoy screwing with some of them as much as I do), kick back, relax, and wait for an actual review/comparison to materialize.

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    Sony fanboy stopped caring about this game the moment it was announced for 360, the only people that currently still care are the xbox fans that don't like the idea of being 1-up'd by sony fanboys, and the sony fanboys that just like rubbing it in the xbox fans faces.

    My opinion is as it's always been, final fantasy dropped the ball when squaresoft merged with enix.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sirxlaughs View Post
    I haven't been keeping tabs on his other posts, but I only see him saying that he's going to wait for a review. I'm not sure how that qualifies as crying foul. Having trust in a trusted review site is one thing. Being skeptical about sketchy information floating around the net is another. I'm expecting the 360 version to be inferior, but I just wish Square would make up their minds about it. First they say it'll be identical except for the compressed movies. Then they doctor up some photos. Then they release authentic ones that show the versions are not identical. Seems like it's better to let the fanboys bicker (unless you enjoy screwing with some of them as much as I do), kick back, relax, and wait for an actual review/comparison to materialize.
    Agreed and no doubt that's what I'm going to do, kick back and relax.

    I think Squares mindset was rational all along, be it deceptive at first, every developer says their game is the same on both and try to give the impression that they are. That's what they have been doing all along, trying to make it seem as if they are the same.

    Where it gets irrational is if square intentionally release a poor quality 360 image after they were rumbled about it not being the same. That's were rationality leaves the door and that's why I personally think it would be daft to not trust square with the new 576p 360 shots but like you rightly said, we'll see.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cue View Post
    Quite the opposite I'd say, there is a crusade by 360 fanboys to prove that it isn't inferior in some minor insignificant way with false information and refuting the FFXIII developer itself.
    So 360 fanboys spread the news that the 360 version runs at sub-HD resolution?
    There isn't anything wrong with it, just a lower resolution and no AA it's not broken
    My point being: no trustworthy source can confirm or deny it.
    it's a real shame you weren't as vocal before when it was a PS3 game being compared unfavourably before release.
    http://www.maxconsole.net/forums/sho...d.php?t=130590
    Except that was an official review from a well known website posted on the release day, also you have to admit that the ps3 has a long history of inferior versions of multiplatform games that lasts pretty much to this day latest example being (as far as I'm aware) recently released Bayonetta.
    Typical, you were more than happy to chuck sh*t at sony and trust Gamespot then, but now you don't trust Square itself and blame the "PS3 fanboys" for a conspiracy
    I didn't think I would have a reason to doubt Square, then Square released "wrong" screenshots and later admitted to it, in fact now Square is saying quote: "we don't feel there is a need to enhance [Final Fantasy XIII on Xbox 360]." but I am not taking their word for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trashcat View Post
    So 360 fanboys spread the news that the 360 version runs at sub-HD resolution?

    My point being: no trustworthy source can confirm or deny it.

    Except that was an official review from a well known website posted on the release day

    what? hehe official screenshots from a know developer is not trustworthy though. fair enough about release day though its not long left anyway and people have had play time with both.

    I didn't think I would have a reason to doubt Square, then Square released "wrong" screenshots and later admitted to it, in fact now Square is saying quote: "we don't feel there is a need to enhance [Final Fantasy XIII on Xbox 360]." but I am not taking their word for it.
    Read my previous post as to why that is rational but releasing intentionally inferior shots is not.

    Bayonetta is what I base this on. When marketing Bayonetta they showed the 360 version and said the PS3 one is the same until of course they couldn't hide it anymore. Now the oppisite has happened they showed the PS3 version all along and said the 360 one is the same, until they couldn't hide it anymore.
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    In the end people who wanted it on the 360 will likely get it on the 360, those that wanted it on the PS3 will likely get it on the PS3 and the fanboys that were upset because it went multiplatform will likely still buy it for the PS3 but lie about owning it and bash the game just for spite whether its deserved or not. Meanwhile those of us who really dont care will buy it for whichever they feel they want at the time (unless something really sways me like some uber super collectors exclusives or a 50% off deal..im planning to get it for the PS3 simply because everything I have had since VII has been on Sony consoles....same reason I picked up bioshock 2 for the 360...its weird but its consistancy. Its going to have monster sales on both platforms regardless, but it souds like square has done their best publically to make sure the PS3 version sells best...now its just up for the market to decide. I just hope the game lives up to the hype, im really more concerned about the quality of the game (sorry the no towns thing has me a bit spooked) rather than who gets better textures in the fabric of some characters dress.
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