Rumor: Next PlayStation codenamed 'Orbis', out holiday ’13, to also block used games

[garyopa]

More PS3 successor rumors. It has an 'AMD x64 CPU' (NO backwards compatibility)



According to Kotaku, the next Sony console 'working title' is 'Orbis'. And, some of their details match the recent rumors, like the one indicating it uses a PC-like processor.

Kotaku learned some 'important details' about the PlayStation 3's successor: apparently, the console's name/codename/working title is Orbis. This, according to a 'reliable source' and the SCE DevNet website:

Orbis. Say it out loud. Sounds a little like the word "four", doesn't it? Only it doesn't make the next PlayStation sound like a bad horror movie sequel.

It's also a name loaded with meaning. The word "Orbis" itself, from Latin, means circle, or ring, or even orbit. Not terribly helpful. Combine it with the name of Sony's new handheld system, though, and you have the common term Orbis Vita (or, in strict Latin, Orbis Vitae). Which means "The circle of life". Could the Vita be playing a very important role in the development and use of the next PlayStation home console? Maybe!

Some other details were shared, like the current console 'specs', which match the recent rumors indicating the console would use an AMD CPU.

Our main source supplied some basic specs for the console, but as the future is always in motion, bear in mind these could easily change between now and the Orbis' retail release. Still, if you'd like to know what developers are being told to plan for now, here you go.

* AMD x64 CPU
* AMD Southern Islands GPU

The PS4's GPU in particular, we're told, will be capable of displaying Orbis games at a resolution of up to 4096x2160, which is far in excess of the needs of most current HDTV sets. It'll also be capable of playing 3D games in 1080p (the PS3 could only safely manage 3D at 720p).

Pretty damn powerful if true. However, this, also indicates that the next SONY console 'won't offer backwards compatibility for its existing catalogue of PS3 games'.

Also, seems the console will be ready for a release on the 2013 holiday season.

And finally, just like the NEXT XBOX there are also rumors saying that, 'Orbis' will block used games.

we've heard from multiple sources that the Orbis will likewise have some kind of anti-used games measures built into the console. Here's how our main source says it's currently shaping up: new games for the system will be available one of two ways, either on a Blu-Ray disc or as a PSN download (yes, even full retail titles). If you buy the disc, it must be locked to a single PSN account, after which you can play the game, save the whole thing to your HDD, or peg it as "downloaded" in your account history and be free to download it at a later date.

Don't think you can simply buy the disc and stay offline, though; like many PC games these days, you'll need to have a PSN account and be online to even get the thing started.

Remember, this one is still a rumor... let's hope they fully unveil it -or at least something- at this year E3.

NEWS SOURCE: The next Playstation is called Orbis sources say here are the details (via) Kotaku

Our thanks to 'Gauss' for reporting on this hot rumor story!

[billysastard]

i did hear that retail discs are in fact just demos until you unlock them online, so if you buy it preowned all you are paying for is a demo and you'' have to go online to buy an unlock pass, i guess that makes preowned games worth just about nothing and in fact retail games shouldn't cost much more than a fiver.


just imagine every time you turn on your new sony console you may be asked to agree to their terms and conditions but instead of clicking "i agree" sony could make you bend down in front of the ps eye and play a quick round of "hide the move controller" to show you agree to what they demand, and finally sony gets to do to its customers what its been doing to them metaphorically for the last few years.


also, it looks like sony are about to launch a new range of ultra hd consumer televisions

[wewii]

Get ready for the greatest exodus of people that buy legit games (new/used/borrowed/passed on games) switching over to pirating.

If this goes through XBOX/PS are going to really regret it.

Their own greed will destroy them. I think they forgot that consumers dictated what happens in the market place... not the other way around.

[PieMan]

If the rumors about about the xbox/ps are true then this is my last console gen and will shift to completely pc only...i want to see sony go up in flames sad since i WAS a MEGA Sony Fanboi at one point

[Battlefield]

If this is true, i will not buy any new console. It looks like they will make it hell for the people who actually pay for the games, while pirates can just boot the games with no nag screens and online passes.

The people that puts the money in their pocket is always the ones that gets hurt most.

Earlier on DVD's etc.. you got a boot up video.."Stealing a movie is like stealing a car"...etc..Its okay for rental movies, but it was wrong to show this for paying people. Pirated versions never had this "bootup video" removed, so it wasnt shown to the right people.

They somehow noticed this, and in recent times it was changed to "Thank you for buying this movie".

Anyway..This new console generation will be the last if they make it messy for people who buy it.
The winners is always pirates. They get it "clean", and for free. Most of them cant be played online thou which is a good thing.

[GaussTek]

A little update. Apparently a design firm called 'Coque Design' posted some pictures labeled "Illustrations & Sketches for new PlayStation Orbis features"... but they were later removed. Kotaku also spotted them:

The photos depict several people moving around in front of some sort of Kinect-like motion-sensing device that rests on top of a television. (As a commenter points out, this device also resembles the PlayStation Eye accessory.) One person is using what appears to be an iPhone or iPod to control music that may be linked to the game system as well.

http://kotaku.com/5897139/sketches-o...then-disappear

[billysastard]

A little update. Apparently a design firm called 'Coque Design' posted some pictures labeled "Illustrations & Sketches for new PlayStation Orbis features"... but they were later removed. Kotaku also spotted them:







http://kotaku.com/5897139/sketches-o...then-disappear

more likely an experia smartphone than anything else since its sony and they would probably try to invalidate your warranty if you used a competitors product as they did when the ps3 was new if people used non sony hdmi cables

[GaussTek]

more likely an experia smartphone than anything else since its sony and they would probably try to invalidate your warranty if you used a competitors product as they did when the ps3 was new if people used non sony hdmi cables

lol you are right...

And, I think the 'interesting' part here is that, if they are already hiring designers to illustrate this thing features, IMO that would mean they are planning to unveil it pretty soon.

[msanchez]

...The PS4's GPU in particular, we're told, will be capable of displaying Orbis games at a resolution of up to 4096x2160...

Awesome, I'm sure that just like the ps3 is running every game @ 1080p on dual screens, the ps4, orbis will continue to live up to the hype...

...if they are already hiring designers to illustrate this thing features, IMO that would mean they are planning to unveil it pretty soon.

Yeah that would maybe apply for non-retarded companies. Sony on the other hand.... well what can I say, wouldn't surprise me if all this is just in the planning phase. For their sake I hope this time they've talked to AMD about supplying them with CPU/GPU BEFORE the other 2 consoles are released; lest they have to drop a Radeon 5500 series GPU in there at the last moment.

[Diztructor]

how many times have we heard this cr@p, no console is going to make pre-owned games not work on a system, lets say your system breaks, if your not online it will mean you cant play the game.

only fanboy trolls actually buy this sh1t because they want to make the system they hate so much sound bad.

its just funny when you can sit back and laugh at those sad people who actually wanted to beleive this to be true.... seriosuly get a life, console fanboys are lame when they have to make such sh1t up to make their day better.

its likely that i have mentioned before when trolls claimed the next xbox to have this feature, that the game will do a online check, each game will have a unique id and maybe the console will have a method of identifying if the same game id is playing online that the pirate copy is then blocked and the psn or xbl account is banned, it wont on the other hand be like this crock o cr@p news is suggesting.

[billysastard]

how many times have we heard this cr@p, no console is going to make pre-owned games not work on a system, lets say your system breaks, if your not online it will mean you cant play the game.

if you are not online you could never validate your game in the first place to make it play from new, if your "orbis" broke and you replaced it then once you's gone online and restored your sen id the games would work again, you'd then have to use your pc to log into sen and deactivate your old orbis (since games will only run on 2 systems and a single sen id).

only fanboy trolls actually buy this sh1t because they want to make the system they hate so much sound bad.

hmm since it was posted here and on kotaku its all over the internet, i guess the entire net is anti sony fanboy trolls

its just funny when you can sit back and laugh at those sad people who actually wanted to beleive this to be true.... seriosuly get a life, console fanboys are lame when they have to make such sh1t up to make their day better.

its likely that i have mentioned before when trolls claimed the next xbox to have this feature, that the game will do a online check, each game will have a unique id and maybe the console will have a method of identifying if the same game id is playing online that the pirate copy is then blocked and the psn or xbl account is banned, it wont on the other hand be like this crock o cr@p news is suggesting.

well first its clearly labelled as a rumor and secondly there have been many apparent leaks regarding content blocking on the xbox and now ps3, one i could understand but it does seem consistent with what companies like ea and sony want, so like it or not if a company like ea can push hardware makers to block used games it saves ea just a few extra cents on every game sold to them thats still lots of extra profit, of course they dont consider that outside of a few fanboys no sane person would buy any system that locked out games or turned them into free demos at retail price so overall sales would plummet.

[Diztructor]

erm billy welcome to the world of sites posting "RUMORS" this exact same thing was said about the next XBOX.... its just aload of cr@p only trolls like you take the bait because you beleive the console companies ei sony are evil empires set out to destroy the world pmsl.

ohh btw stop pm'n me, personally i dont care if you choose to beleive this cr@p, i know it wont happen, i can see it will be some kind of anti piracy method, not to ban pre owned games, the finger will point and laugh come the next xbox/orbis consoles are launched because the same was said to happen on both systems.

[DEDDOA]

I have no doubts that this is true, the blocking of 2nd hand games that is the rest may be specualation and rumours but this is one thing that rings true and somthing I wouldn't put past any of the console manufacturers, tho more so for Sony. On the hardware front, it does sound like a sensible approach to go for a PC architecture, simply because it allows for devs to make the most of the hardware given that every other home format will be basically be using some PC like design. It may actuallybe a sign of Sony actually putting a foot into the real world finally and realising that they don't have the guaranteed clout to force devlopers to bend over backwards for their frankenstien hardware designs, and customers to pay through the nose for it. Anyway, it's a good 18 months away yet so i'll take everythting bar for the blocking of 2nd hand games witha pinch of salt (even tho it seems to me to do more harm than good, especially if MS or Nintendo don't do the same, tho that has never been a barrier for Sony in the past, pissing off customers is run of the mill to them)

[trancehead]

erm billy welcome to the world of sites posting "RUMORS" this exact same thing was said about the next XBOX.... its just aload of cr@p only trolls like you take the bait because you beleive the console companies ei sony are evil empires set out to destroy the world pmsl.ohh btw stop pm'n me, personally i dont care if you choose to beleive this cr@p, i know it wont happen, i can see it will be some kind of anti piracy method, not to ban pre owned games, the finger will point and laugh come the next xbox/orbis consoles are launched because the same was said to happen on both systems.

You are such a blind fool (or should I say tool!)Sony already dropped the amounts of systems psn games can run on from 5 to 2. Do you honestly believe blocking 2nd hand titles is such a leap.It's actually easy, every console has a UID (Unique Identifier) number. Match game UID to console UID, if the game UID has already been unlocked to another console UID, then offer an unlock for a fee. And when Xbox and Playstation both start doing this, we have these idiotic posts to throw back in your face.Until that day, have fun in your dreamland.

[ploggy]

Well if M$ and $ony Do render preowned games useless I may sit out the "Next Gen Consoles" it's just getting stupid. Although the WiiU is sounding better and better all the time.