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    Exclamation Rumor: EA wanted to integrate Origin into Wii U

    'Nintendo, EA and the ****ed up Origin deal'.



    Seems that EA tried making a deal where all of Wii U's online systems were run by its Origin network...

    According to a Reddit user, EA and Nintendo tried to work out a deal for the Wii U Online component, but there was a catch...

    It looks like EA wanted all of Wii U's online network —including the Nintendo Network— to be run through its Origin system.

    And, because of that, EA's support for the Wii U console dwindled...

    Here's the original post:

    8 months before E3 and many months after this is what it was like between EA and Nintendo. Nintendo noticed that many people commended EA's online system and netcode they did for their Wii games (Madden, Medal of Honor, ect) so they asked them if they could work on contract to help build the core online ecosystem for their next gen console. EA provide a ton of consoling to Nintendo, such as how to make low-latency net code, username account systems, social networks and more. While other companies did provide input as well, EA made sure to provide the most input and support for the Wii U's R&D.

    As an reward, EA received development kits even before Ubisoft, Valve or Tecmo Koei. Many of EA's studios were interested, especially Bioware who have been wanting to put their own games on a Nintendo system for ages and finally had the technical ability to do it with a Mass Effect Trilogy port and Dragon Age 3 on slate for the system.

    Here comes the problem. At a meeting in Kyoto, a month or so after Peter Moore visited them, Nintendo of Japan showed EA their new Nintendo Network and Miiverse online system for Wii U. They wanted to congratulate them helping them with the support and paid them for their counseling.
    This is where reportedly EA according to my friends who were at the meeting the core executives at EA got greedy. They then offered this deal to Nintendo where EA could go further with the online system adding smartphone/tablet functionality, communities, Facebook and Twitter interactions and more. Better netcode and something that would truly rival X-Box Live and PSN.

    The catch? Nintendo would have to make the Nintendo Network for Wii U officially part of Origin and run Origin's interface and netcode. Ergo, Nintendo Network would be an Origin-exclusive network.

    Nintendo actually did debate for a minute if they should accept EA's deal, but they quickly decided (and put their foot down) that there was WAY more harm than good doing this. Even though Nintendo Network can link to Origin and it's servers, having the core network running on Origin would provide quality control issues. For example, if EA wanted to sell some low end DLC for $50 each when realistically consumers would buy it only for $5, EA could do this without Nintendo having any say since it was their network and not Nintendo's. Also, if a rival company let's say Activision wanted to put Modern Warfare 4 on Wii U, EA could give Activison the WORST netcode and support resources while putting all their back into Battlefield 4, thus making a rival look worse than EA"s products.

    These unfair business possibilities and consumer complaints on Origin for PC made Nintendo reject EA's offering for Origin and instead opted to keep the platform open to it's own internal network and able to link/patch in other networks such as Steam and uPlay.

    This, like the PSN vs. Capcom incident that caused MH4 to jump ship, destroyed any momentum that Nintendo had with EA for Wii U. While EA still likes Wii U and will support it, from what I understand unless the launch titles or future titles sell way beyond expectations, EA will simply "throw Wii U bones" by putting some multiplatform games without giving them any real budgets. This means we are going to get low quality in terms of budget and manpower ports of various EA games with no soul behind them and thus the original agreement of ME3, FIFA and Madden are gimped and the developers have only that small budget to work with.

    Ironically, the good thing that came out of this is that other 3rd parties praised Nintendo. This especially pleased Ubisoft, who was head over heels with the system to begin with and this move further solidified their partnership with the Big N. In a way, Nintendo lost EA and gained the entire good side of Ubisoft instead.

    This also gave props to Valve, who also loves the system and since they are hard at work for 5 games in the next three years next year they will show off games for Wii U, starting with a multiplat Left 4 Dead prequel announcement for Q1/Q2 2013.
    Of course, this is just a rumor, but won't be surprising considering the lackluster EA upcoming offerings on the Wii U, including the recent case with Madden NFL 13, which was recently revealed to be missing key features on the Wii U version, and the company insinuations about not considering the console as a "hot" product for the holidays...

    What do you think?

    NEWS SOURCE #1: Nintendo EA and the EA-up Origin deal (via) IGN
    NEWS SOURCE #2: EA Origin Wii-U (via) WiiUDaily

    Our thanks to 'Gauss' for this news item!
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    Dreamcast all over again? LOL

    Finally a console again with bad EA support? That can only be good.

    Dreamcast didnt get one EA game to date, but had about 50 games from Capcom alone!
    This is probably why the average quality was so high on Dreamcast compared to newer and older consoles. Dreamcast games was usually locked to 60 fps, while newer and older consoles run at 30 fps except for Gamecube which had quite a few 60 fps games.

    Dreamcast and CD32 is still my 2 favourite consoles ever.
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    Why is so many people defending EA, when they are a shit company with yearly shovelware? They even won a prize for it twice.
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    Everytime I see EA and Origin I first think, whoohoo the classic Wing Commander and Privateer team are back, bring on the happy days of space dog fight sims again, than it sinks in that no, it's EA sullying the name with their "We don't want to pay Steam and if we could we would use this on the MS and Sony consoles as well so we could get even more control" crap. Steam was fine, we didn't need another of it's kind, other methods of purchase keep steam competative, however, much like the Blizzard shop, online doesn't bring any savings with Origin (I am still in disbelief at the £29.99 for Mysts of Pandaria as a digital copy, thats only £10 less than I paid for the Cataclysm Collectors edition, boxed one with all the extras, and best part of £10 more than I paid for Cataclysm normal edition for the wench.)
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    there is one thing Nintendo don't like and that's some other company calling the shots.
    Nintendo you never give control of their network to EA. Nintendo is way to proud.
    They aint no sellouts. WE don't need EA's games anyways. They are mostly buggy crap anyways.
    Im glad that some of the top developers have wised up and want to make games for Wii U.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Battlefield View Post
    Dreamcast all over again? LOL

    Finally a console again with bad EA support? That can only be good.

    Dreamcast didnt get one EA game to date, but had about 50 games from Capcom alone!
    This is probably why the average quality was so high on Dreamcast compared to newer and older consoles. Dreamcast games was usually locked to 60 fps, while newer and older consoles run at 30 fps except for Gamecube which had quite a few 60 fps games.

    Dreamcast and CD32 is still my 2 favourite consoles ever.
    I know for a fact that the Dreamcast got what was one of the best survival horror style games ever made, Clive Barkers Undying, but it was a flop due to piss poor EA marketing even tho everyone and their dog loved it, and that was a game from back when eview sites/magazines actually gave reviews the majority would agree with and not the pay us off either in advertising or freebies and your game gets 90+ even if we are bored before it's even loaded.
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    These are gaming systems I am biased towards (may as well throw in everything from last gen and before as if the PC can emulate it I am likley to have it)

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    the DC was still great even without EA, well to be honest better, it never had fifa, tiger woods, sims and all the other recycleware cr@p games every year.

    i hate how EA think because they cr@p out so many sh1t games, that they can act like spoiled children and seem to think they have a right to demand or else we dont make games for your system.

    i think nintendo should tell EA to go feck themselves, at least it will save the wii u from the constant sh1t EA make.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diztructor View Post
    the DC was still great even without EA, well to be honest better, it never had fifa, tiger woods, sims and all the other recycleware cr@p games every year.

    i hate how EA think because they cr@p out so many sh1t games, that they can act like spoiled children and seem to think they have a right to demand or else we dont make games for your system.

    i think nintendo should tell EA to go feck themselves, at least it will save the wii u from the constant sh1t EA make.
    exactly, the sooner ea go bankrupt the better for gamers everywhere.

    i just hope that if the wii u is a huge success both nintendo and all console buyers will remember ea being childish pricks and continue to act as if there were no ea games on the wii u, it would be even better of course if ALL console owners simply boycotted ea on every format.




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    A console with no EA games, will get higher average score on metacritic. (But Metacritic still sucks for several reasons)

    I think all the EA server closures also scares off Nintendo, and most likely everyone else who wanna make online support.

    What if they released Super Smash Bros online, then after 1 year EA says.. **** it. We are closing the server.
    EA do not only make crap games, but they force people to pay full price of the games if you want online community.
    When a EA game is in bargain bin, the server usually closed too.

    Again.. 2 big thumbs up to Nintendo for sweeping the **** (EA) of their shoes. I dont care about that Criterion makes the new NFS games.
    hey are probably better than EA, but damn... its still NFS 25,26,27 +++ Do we need all these NFS games?

    To date, NFS 3 is the most ultimate NFS game...and... its from 1997.
    Why is so many people defending EA, when they are a shit company with yearly shovelware? They even won a prize for it twice.
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