Sony struggling to get third-parties on PS Vita

[SLAYERPSP]

Games cost way to much thats a big problem when i can get games like the Dark Knight for 6.99 and Asphalt 7 for .99 on my Nexus 7 with bigger screen and higher res screen for 90 percent less who would ever buy a vita i can also use my ps3 controller to play a lot of games on my tablet

[JonathanD]

Games cost way to much thats a big problem when i can get games like the Dark Knight for 6.99 and Asphalt 7 for .99 on my Nexus 7 with bigger screen and higher res screen for 90 percent less who would ever buy a vita i can also use my ps3 controller to play a lot of games on my tablet

Did you post that on slashdot too? I swear I just read a comment almost like it. (I might have modded it insightful too...) lol


http://games.slashdot.org/story/12/0...%28Slashdot%29

I read every single comment (I browse at 0) and the overwhelming feeling I get from 99% of the posters is that they distrust Sony in the handheld market or feel like Sony doesn't allow them choices or are way too expensive or are marketing the whole machine wrong. After reading all the comments and concerns it looks like a lot of the problems could be fixed via software, lower pricing, and Sony convincing publishers to make more games. The problems of competing with Nintendo and Apple and phones are really out of Sony's hands but they are not making it any harder for those competitors either.

Edit: Out of over 100 posts that I read, I think there was a total of like 3 positive comments about the Vita.

[wrathchild]

Out of over 100 posts that I read, I think there was a total of like 3 positive comments about the Vita.

It's a sad thing too because the vita is really an awesome device. It's just Sony's greed that's holding it back.

[JonathanD]

It's a sad thing too because the vita is really an awesome device. It's just Sony's greed that's holding it back.

Absolutely no argument there, the Vita is fantastic hardware! The only minor complaint about the machine anyone could possibly level against the machine is its use of a proprietary memory card format. Other than that one minor thing the machine is really nice.

[billysastard]

It's a sad thing too because the vita is really an awesome device. It's just Sony's greed that's holding it back.

i agree, but that is part of its problem, its too expensive for a handheld even at the subsidized price and that is before we even consider the running costs, maybe in 3 or 4 years such tech might be viable but for now it just isn't.

[DEDDOA]

It's a sad thing too because the vita is really an awesome device. It's just Sony's greed that's holding it back.

Greed and arrogance that they believe they are always right in their choices just because the PS1 and 2 did well, even if it was more through luck than judgement (as in Sega and Nintendo dropping the ball, or as with the PS2, Sega quitting and Nintendo and MS leaving the PS2 alone for long enough that by the time they released at full price, the PS2 was able to be heaving reduced in price, something you would think Sony would have spotted as a real sales boost). 3 fails in a row would be overwhelming confirmation for most companies that the strategy is really really not working, not for Sony tho as they still think they know best.

[Diztructor]

i agree, but that is part of its problem, its too expensive for a handheld even at the subsidized price and that is before we even consider the running costs, maybe in 3 or 4 years such tech might be viable but for now it just isn't.

tell you what billy, why dont you as a moderator simply stick to nintendo topics, its clear you love them so much, you sit here insisting your hate for sony and will do anything to hate the company, regardless.

who gives a flying feck if the vita (which has only been out a few months) is off to a slow start, THE FACT IS, i have more games on my vita that i enjoy playing, than the 3DS has offered in over a year.

sony products and microsoft are allways off to a slow start and never sell as many as nintendo, but the point is, at least microsoft and sony consoles dont get stuck with cheap slap out games that arent worth £30.

the vita offers a far better gaming experience than the 3DS, it offers the same bullsh1t gimmick controlls, but it also offers dual analogues which makes gaming far easier (without having to pay extra) it also has a bigger and better quality screen plus better specs to have better graphics.

if you want a cheap system that even mobile phones can beat, ohh and be ***** to buy a charger (loved the XL advert, the tiny yellow box with red unreadable writing saying charger nor inlcuded). - youll rather b1tch over slow sales, yet favor this OMG whats the word i should be looking for??

at least vita owners get a charger cable with theirs, as if nintendo is that cheap they force **** its customers to pay extra, nintendo deserve to rot for this.

[billysastard]

at least vita owners get a charger cable with theirs, as if nintendo is that cheap they force **** its customers to pay extra, nintendo deserve to rot for this.

whilst i agree that not including a required psu is an absolute fucking disgrace on nintendos part, is it any worse really than sony not including a required memory card, a far more expensive item?



oh and in case you didnt notice not only was the reply you quoted not a reply to you, but for good measure it didnt even mention the 3ds.

[Diztructor]

whilst i agree that not including a required psu is an absolute fucking disgrace on nintendos part, is it any worse really than sony not including a required memory card, a far more expensive item?



oh and in case you didnt notice not only was the reply you quoted not a reply to you, but for good measure it didnt even mention the 3ds.

ohh my vita came including a memory card, but not all games require one and it only cost me £300 with a memory card plus uncharted which wasn't bad.

but to say those that keep saying the vita is too expensive, comparing to the XL
3DS XL £168.99 + £11.99 charger - £180.98
VITA - £204.99 + £14.99 4GB - £219.98

The vita is only £39 more than the XL, and looking how the vita is a far more impressive piece of kit (hardware) really, and can offer the same kinda gaming as the 3DS (plus other functions) - but also offers smoother game play for games such as metal gear solid (without having to pay £15.99 for the circle pad pro) is £39 extra that much considering?? (we could minus £9 because the vita includes a charger cable).

so if i wanted to play games on my 3DS as intended with dual circle pads, it would cost £196.97 making a vita only £23.01 more which already includes dual analogues for these kind of games, which i may add is feck all and i dont get how people find this difference as expensive.

and again i dont get how this source is claiming the vita to be sturgling to get devs on board (when OPM which it claims the interview has nothing) when we clearly can see that most if not all the major studios (as well as 3rd party ones) are already on board and have something in the works for the vita, if not have already released something for the vita.

[JonathanD]

i dont get how this source is claiming the vita to be sturgling to get devs on board (when OPM which it claims the interview has nothing) when we clearly can see that most if not all the major studios (as well as 3rd party ones) are already on board and have something in the works for the vita, if not have already released something for the vita.

I can honestly see it, think about it for a minute... How did Naughty Dog have so much time to crank out a version of Uncharted for the machine and yet 6 months later where are the other AAA games? If the Vita is being so well supported as you say, then where are all the games? Why isn't the machine selling?

Surely EA and other the other major studio's have had access to the same dev kits that Naughty Dog did....

There are some bigger games on the way but it seems to me that at best the Vita has been on the back burner for most developers.

My guess is they are watching the sales charts very closely this time, and will rabbit at the first sign of trouble no one wants to lose a bunch of money.

You say it's a bargain, you say it has awesome games, why isn't it selling?

[Diztructor]

I can honestly see it, think about it for a minute... How did Naughty Dog have so much time to crank out a version of Uncharted for the machine and yet 6 months later where are the other AAA games? If the Vita is being so well supported as you say, then where are all the games? Why isn't the machine selling?

Surely EA and other the other major studio's have had access to the same dev kits that Naughty Dog did....

There are some bigger games on the way but it seems to me that at best the Vita has been on the back burner for most developers.

My guess is they are watching the sales charts very closely this time, and will rabbit at the first sign of trouble no one wants to lose a bunch of money.

You say it's a bargain, you say it has awesome games, why isn't it selling?

firstly Naughty Dog didnt make Uncharted Golden Abbys, it was a 3rd party sony studio, Bend.

ive not said its had AAA games yet, but if you care to actually look, you can see AAA console IPs coming to the vita, such as assasins creed, call of duty.

but saying that, the same is said about the 3DS, the only games id class as AAA is Resident Evil Revelations and MGS 3D, the 3DS has been out far longer and also lacks these AAA games.

the point is, the source claims its strugling to get devs on board, but it clearly has some of the biggest devs on board, the thing is, these devs arent cr@ping games out on the system, which is good, its the main reason i hate EA, because they simply sh1t so many crap games that are identical to its predasessor, id rather wait a little longer for a better game like assasins creed.

people here want the vita to die, and guess they dont like it that it is selling but slowly, all i can say in the time the vita has been out in comparison to the 3DS, i have more vita games i like playing that i ever had on the 3DS to which ive now sold because it became the usual nintendo system, sat there doing nothing because it lacks the games i want.

they also moan that its over priced, yet comparing to the 3DS, its not really considering how the vita is better hardware wise.

[JonathanD]

firstly Naughty Dog didnt make Uncharted Golden Abbys, it was a 3rd party sony studio, Bend.

ive not said its had AAA games yet, but if you care to actually look, you can see AAA console IPs coming to the vita, such as assasins creed, call of duty.

but saying that, the same is said about the 3DS, the only games id class as AAA is Resident Evil Revelations and MGS 3D, the 3DS has been out far longer and also lacks these AAA games.

the point is, the source claims its strugling to get devs on board, but it clearly has some of the biggest devs on board, the thing is, these devs arent cr@ping games out on the system, which is good, its the main reason i hate EA, because they simply sh1t so many crap games that are identical to its predasessor, id rather wait a little longer for a better game like assasins creed.

people here want the vita to die, and guess they dont like it that it is selling but slowly, all i can say in the time the vita has been out in comparison to the 3DS, i have more vita games i like playing that i ever had on the 3DS to which ive now sold because it became the usual nintendo system, sat there doing nothing because it lacks the games i want.

they also moan that its over priced, yet comparing to the 3DS, its not really considering how the vita is better hardware wise.

I wouldn't get my hopes up too much for the Vita version of CoD Blops, it might be great but the graphics make it look rushed as the Vita already has had much better looking games made for it.

[billysastard]

I wouldn't get my hopes up too much for the Vita version of CoD Blops, it might be great but the graphics make it look rushed as the Vita already has had much better looking games made for it.

oh look, a cut down version of a 2 year old wii game with an even less usable online system (unless playing at home on your own wifi), that should beat black ops 2 on the 3ds shouldnt it


although of course there is always wii pes 2011 (or fifa 13 as its now known on the ps3 move), little big ripoff kart, a paper based adventure game (now where have i heard that before) and of course super smash playstaion brothers battle royale and lets not forget that we can spend £500+ on an end of life console and a stillborn handheld to do something on a few games that will be standard on a next gen system later this year for almost half the price.

[Battlefield]

oh look, a cut down version of a 2 year old wii game with an even less usable online system (unless playing at home on your own wifi), that should beat black ops 2 on the 3ds shouldnt it


although of course there is always wii pes 2011 (or fifa 13 as its now known on the ps3 move), little big ripoff kart, a paper based adventure game (now where have i heard that before) and of course super smash playstaion brothers battle royale and lets not forget that we can spend £500+ on an end of life console and a stillborn handheld to do something on a few games that will be standard on a next gen system later this year for almost half the price.

This is the reason why Vita dont sell. It gets ports, sequels, or spin-offs from old PS3 games. Vita doesent offer anything new in gaming, or any new games...= weak sales.
Why is all these games reminding me of old Nintendo games like Yoshi's World (LBP), Mario Kart, Smash Bros etc.?

When Vita get games which is already better on a Nintendo system, why should they buy mediocre "remakes" on Vita?


BTW: I finally bought a 3D TV now.. Samsung Series 8 with DualCore CPU. (46") Yes, the newest generation have DualCore in TV..hehe
Its so much better with active 3D than passive glasses. The TV was expensive, because of improved 3D, DC CPU among other things compared to generation 6 and 7 which is also still in stores.

Even expensive 3D LG's TV suffers from some kind of blocking/shadowing. Active was clearly the winner to me.

Gears of War 3 on 360, Motorstorm 3 on PS3, 3D BR Movies etc. is "perfect" on series 8 TV.

[Diztructor]

oh look, a cut down version of a 2 year old wii game with an even less usable online system (unless playing at home on your own wifi), that should beat black ops 2 on the 3ds shouldnt it


although of course there is always wii pes 2011 (or fifa 13 as its now known on the ps3 move), little big ripoff kart, a paper based adventure game (now where have i heard that before) and of course super smash playstaion brothers battle royale and lets not forget that we can spend £500+ on an end of life console and a stillborn handheld to do something on a few games that will be standard on a next gen system later this year for almost half the price.

ha ha wtf seriously billy, your slating a handheld that actually has nice specs and graphics then compare it to next gen, well hello what about the 3DS then if your to compare, ohh hold up, also the 3DS is useless for online unless your at home using your wifi, it dont offer 3G (which is sh1t anyways).

if i was to act like you, lets take the wii u then and compare it (aka revamp last gen) or even the wii to next gens.

as if your b1tching over basic game ideas been similar, hello nearly all games share the basic idea.

take a fecking chill pill, must be time of the month or maybe you have nintendo so far up your a55 and have such pointless hatred towards sony thus makes you one major wiitarded nintendork fanboy.

all i can say, that CoD doesnt look that bad CONSIDERING THE SYSTEM IS ONLY A FEW MONTHS OLD, COMPARE PS3/360 GAMES DURING THE FIRST FEW MONTHS.

the fact is, it still looks better than anything the 3DS can do, and its kind great really that a handheld can compare to a console considering ITS A HANDHELD, lets look back at so called nintendo who kept re releasing the sodding snes for so long, think the DS only came because news was released that sony was enetering the handheld market thus forcing nintendo to come up with something new aka a crappy blocky cheap DS but masked with so called innovative tap tap tap screen.

at least sony are pushing a handheld to newer levels, not just adding BS control gimmicks