Um, I believe when we refer to the term back up on these forums we assume that the person in question legally owns the disc before making a copy.
Yeah and if you think everybody including microsoft believes the"oh but honest they are already games I own" bullshit then you must think we are all as green as you.
Who in their right mind goes to the trouble and expense of getting the consoles modded so they can copy all they games they have already to play the copies. What a load of arse.
If you dont think its a crime why spout on in this thread about "ooh will I get banned and how will they ban me?"
As for your statement you might own the disc but it also states not to make illegal copies of it. In other words do not copy the disc as a back up in case your dog eats the original. You dont own the software your are merely paying a license fee to play it. The legal owner is the software producer, not the spotty oik sitting in his sweaty sock infested bedroom whipping out copies for all his monitor tanned friends.
All those who commit piracy under the guise of "its a back up" want shafting with the rough end of a pineapple.
If you can honestly say that you have never ever downloaded and burnt a game then you must be the only person on the planet with a flashed console who has not.
You all must think we come in with the last shower of rain.
Best of luck in your little dream world.
Im off to play some games I have worked and actually paid for myself.
Ps I hope somebody comes round your house and removes all your gear and takes it back to their house as back ups.
Incase you arn't aware this forum is mostly about hacking, modding and the backing up of games so I don't know what you're doing in here.
There is a good enough reason to back up a game due to the rather high prices in games, I don't wanna shell out $60 for a game just so it breaks over time as I doubt M$ will replace it so the idea of backing them up is fair maybe a bit more messing around (modding, ripping, burning).
Some people just copy them off thier friends but that's really thier choice if they want to support gaming companies I'm pretty sure they would in possible other ways.
I actally don't own an Xbox but it's nice to know if I ever did, I could keep my investment.
.............want shafting with the rough end of a pineapple.
mmmmmm.......think i'll give that a miss, fookin' funny though!!
There is another reason for making back-ups, i myself have been a victim of my 360 drive putting a wide radial scratch all the way around a disc. £40 just thrown away because of a ms design fault. I now make a backup of every game regardless of some silly law.
But i do buy all the games i have.
With the existance of the circular scratches phenomina, a fool would argue not to backup 360 games. Can you imagine a person's dismay when their $$60.00 game gets circular scratches? Scratches can appear regardless of positioning. This has been proven in many forums. Microsoft has encouraged backups through their lack of physical disk protection ($.25 rubber bumpers fixes the problem) and their cost for games- $60.00 is RIDICULOUS!!!!!! When you pay 60.00 on a game and it dies in a month because the console is scratching it, it makes sense to back it up. It's really a no-brainer!
It's wise to back up your games and keep them somewhere safe, perhaps buy some plastic covers (ones like shrink wraping) and just play the copied game. Any trouble open up the new game and copy.
At the end of the day it's backing up vs piracy
Although a lot of people do indeed legally copy thier games within thier right alot of people see it as an easy oppertunity to copy and swap games with thier friends.
I think M$ do have a point when it comes to this kind of thing. Perhaps they should offer you a free replacement if your disc is damaged? Maybe a COA that you can send them? That way there isn't much reason to backup a game.
But untill they do this I'm condoning the copying of games, as for the legalities in some counties, I'm not to bothered not like their the ones being ripped off, now is it?
I'm at just as much risk playing Original games on my flashed drive as i am playing Backed-Up games on my flashed drive?
Yes, it would be the same risk because in MS would be looking for the actual firmware. I wouldn't worry too much though. I think they are looking at different approaches this time. If they just ban everyone off of live then of course that will be lost revenue. The person may just go buy a PS3 or Wii and play online at no cost.
well, if ms bans me were gonna have a problem because i have proof that i bought all of my games
Right, and I think that's where MS is having the biggest problem. Although they are fully aware of what's going on they really can't do too much until someone tries to run unsigned code. As far as they can tell you are running your original games and not backups. It's not illegal to flash the drives although they can ban anyone from live at any time without cause. I think this will create some legal trouble if they ban everyone with flash drives. Also, there would be a signifigant financial impact. Let's say 100,000 people are banned * 49.99 a year + content downloads.......that would hurt big time.
At this point, it seems that Microsoft has decided not to fight it. As long as unsigned code is not being run on their systems, it seems as though they view the modified firmware as acceptable. But once unsigned code is run on the 360, and cheating becomes prevalent like in halo 2, then we might have to worry.
am i right in thinking then that this latest gow hacking could well start to make ms do something about the modded firmware?
if so bloody quit it now why hack a game to finish it
Yeah, it will make MS start looking a little closer. They will probably just ban those who are running the unsigned code as they will stick out like a sore thumb and they are in clear violation of XBL policies. Fucking losers.....why even try to alter games to do stupid ****? I also find it highly amusing that gamertags kept popping up in the video. I'm going to keep my eye on those tags bc I'm sure they will be banned very soon.