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Article: 3D viewing will become the 'norm', Sony claims

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    Could be. Will it, well time will tell.
     
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    Anyone who has this technology in their house knows exactly how taxing it is on the eyes. 3D is good for a movie here and there, but everything in 3d is simply NOT desirable.
     
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    Indeed right now yes. Who's to say in 10 years thought.

    I like 3D because no matter what resolution above 1080p it's still 3D
     
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    And this might not go away.
    3D is definitely here to stay, and probably all content will be in 3D in a couple of years, but doesn't mean that 2D will go away. Probably won't and shouldn't if you ask me.

    I still love 3D though :p
     
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    Said from Sony.... look psp2, no 3d, or maybe not without glasses.
     
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    Thread cleaned, Please keep this thread on the topic of 3D and it becoming the norm in the future.. and be nice to each other :)
     
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    Of course they'd say that. They're trying to push it and get everyone to buy it. If 3D viewing is the 'norm' I'll happily be different.
     
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    Yea, and I'm Clint Eastwood....
     
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    3D is the future whether you like it or not. If you have been to the cinema lately you will have noticed alot of movies are in 3D. Alot of 3D bluray contents are coming out and 3D games as well. I myself owns 2 3DTVs and would never go back to 2D TVs.
     
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    Hey, can I borrow your time machine?
     
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    I seriously doubt mainstream tv will be 3d untill glasses free is the standard, as tv becomes less of a casual pastime when you have to wear the glasses. 3d glasses even in a throw away form just aren't practical for anything but specialised adult use. How safe are they for young children who's eye's are developing beyond the odd movie here and there?

    Casual watching isn't practical either, doing other stuff while watching tv, watching the football down the pub, watching tv while doing housework, cooking, paperwork etc. none of that is practical with glasses 3D.

    If you are like a vast number of people, even HD is no big deal, so long as the picture is clear most people couldn't give a rats arse if it's hd or if it has a 3rd dimension.

    For me personally, 3D is only of any intrest for a movie that does it decently (and few do and those that do bore me shitless, well thats avatar anyway), and head tracking 3d when it is finally used in games, the rest is waste of time.
     
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    What are you trying to say? Because NGP doesn't have 3D, Sony can't believe that 3D is the future? Is there any kind of logic to your reasoning?
     
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    I cannot put it more simply than this:
    3D TV's in all forms will eventually become just as cheap to make as 2D TV's, and the market (just like the makers) will then buy a 3D TV instead of 2D because of the simple "why not". There is no reason to buy a 2D TV if you can get a 3D TV with the same features and performance for the same price (assuming that 2D is a subset of 3D and they will never become mutually exclusive).
    Give that some time and the market will normalize itself. Just like no one is buying a new SD TV today, no one will buy a 2D TV tomorrow.

    Does this mean that all content will be in 3D? Surely not. Glasses or no glasses do not matter, they will have a 3D capable TV to enjoy their 2D content, just like we are enjoying SD content on HD TV's today.
     
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    I was talking about mainstream TV not the sets, doesn't matter if a the tv set is 2d or 3d, HD or SD, most people don't care. Yes if future TV's all include glassed 3d then thats a no brainer that people will buy the sets, i am saying that 3d in it's current form won't be anything more than a niche form of entertainment for those who lead normal lives and especially families with young children.

    It's all down to publuic demand and to be fair if even HD is struggling to make an impact in most homes even those with HD TV's, 3D just seems like a gimic at present with very little actually using it. 3DTV and TV in 3D reminds me of the PS3 Sixaxis, prime example of a feature present in every PS3 and next to no support as it's of no intrest to all but a vocal few.

    Mind you it's taken 3D best part of 50 odd years to get this far even when the advent of colour TV meant that red/blue 3D could become mainstream quite easy, it never took off beyond a gimic even tho it was incredibly cheap and easy to do. That in it's self kind of speaks volumes for the wider appeal of glasses 3D or just watching TV in 3D.
     
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    I've just bought a 32" LED TV, i looked at 3D ones that were the same price (£700) and they were too large, i didn't want any bigger than 37" and the smallest 3D is 40"
    not to mention the similar priced 3D set was a plasma, the similar spec LED sets were around £1500

    Not to mention the TV's only come with 1 set of glasses, so you need to buy more sets at between £70-200 per pair of glasses, so currently its unappeasable really

    and there aren't many 3D sources at the monet, the odd game, the odd film, one or two TV channels on premium satellite packages, its just not worth the extra thousand pounds or more for that yet

    While its like that i'm not going to buy a 3D TV

    but once the Glasses free sets appear and prices drop i can see them becoming more prevalent, and more 3D sources are available i can see it being the norm quite easily
     
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    3DTV doesn't get any safer once the glasses are gone. The same warnings and disclaimers apply and the same effects are found (sometimes better, sometimes worse). Unfortunately if we ever want to get to the stage where it is 'the norm' that won't be the technology to do it either.

    From my perspective the only way any sort of 3D display will become ever become 'the norm' and considered safe for every day use even by the companies pitching the technology will be when they figure out how to have the effect occur and be viewed naturally without having to trick and/or strain the human body.. which is why these negative effects exist in the first place and also not cutting out the huge chunk of people either in the 0-7 age range or that are unable to view the effect for various reasons.

    In my honest opinion I think any claimed success of 3D in the future will be the result of trojan inclusion.. Glasses based screens without the glasses/use basically. All they can ever really hope for is a dedicated few to continue using it and those screens being the only 'normal' screens available.

    This is already happening, Sales assistants are telling people what to purchase, Manufacturers are dumping prices and companies are removing old product from the shelves.. It's fairly easy to claim success telling stockholders you've sold 20 Million 3DTV's when the feature is included in every screen as standard.
     
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    the main problem with 3d isnt the 3d itself, its the dreadful content, so many movies are just badly made in 3d and thats the biggest issue for causing headaches, i dont want eyestrain just to see an axe or an eyeball flying out of the screen once in a while, i want it to provide a virtual world, 3d games are better.

    using even active glasses need not cause problems, even for extended periods of time i can remember working days at a time using 3d cadcam software back in the atari st days without any problems yet stick me in active or passive glasses watching a 3d(ized) movie and you'd better have a puke bag handy.
     
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    Oddly 3-d can be done now on both ps3 and xbox 360. Yet only a small fraction of people care. It doesnt really change gameplay just the way you view it. At the start of this gen a nice flat screen tv was the way to go, a few years later you needed 1080p flatscreen, now they wanna push 3-d. Anyone with business or tech sense knows this is just the start. Its like pc parts. In home consoles owning the console and a tv to play on was enough to play. Now they wanna trow in needed upgrades.

    extra controllers, addons for the extra controllers (mics, chucks, keypads etc.) then you need cables (hdmi) then a sound system and wires for that. Then you need paid online accounts, online game passes, dlc etc etc, motion controllers ala kinect and move.

    Now throw 3-d into the mix and you will get a starter 3-d tv likely to be replaced because its launch tech. Tons of glasses for a entire family just to watch a movie.

    All this is just growing charges and cost to be a gamer. 3-D will have to be trojin horsed in to reach a mainstream audience and probably still wont be mass used by mass market just because of cost alone and how tech changes. It the glasses get updated, tv gets higher res and 10.1 surround sound steroes, dvr`s, high cable dish satellite prices rises.
    This isnt even to mention home consoles costing as much as pc`s.

    You can only such so much milk out of a cow before it dries up. You have phones, pads and other tech devices becoming must own devices. There is only so much going to make it and only so many first adapters will put up with before they feel like they got burned.

    to sum up, 3-d can happen now and because of costs listed above, its not earth changing.
    You got global disasters, global recessions, wars etc etc.

    The cash cows are running out of milk and the cows are learning not to run to the green pasture because its probably just artificial turf to make the grass look real green.
    Having a console claim to run 3-d isnt gonna be enough. Its gonna take every TV at walmart, betsbuy etc etc being nothing but 3-d. Its gonna take every home console being sold with 2 pairs of 3-d glasses. Games being bundled with a pair (like old movies where), all games needing to be 3-d to force upgrades. basically without 3-d being trojin horsed and shoved on consumers, its gonna be a fad. Even shoved on people hasnt even mentioned health risks and all it takes is 1 person getting a brain tumor and the bad press will kill it off fast as a health risk.

    But its years away from even trying to go mainstream and by then some other tech will rise up to try and replace it or make you upgrade again. The adoption rate is gonna be slower than hd since many people just got on the hd train and a lot havent even done that.

    Lets look at this gen of gaming. The number 1 console was the cheapest sold, didnt have hd. almost plug and play like old consoles (with the exception you probably got extra controllers).
     
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    What movies are you thinking of?
     

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