But you still havent figured out that Apple doesnt make devices for people like you? 99% of the masses just want their **** to work, they dont care about access to the file system or java and dont know what multitasking is...its all about the interface which so far no one has been able to touch. If bloated features and unrestrained access were the be all end all I would still be carrying around my N95 rather than trying unsuccessfully to sell it on craigslist for the past 6 months and retiring it to the drawer of doa tech with my HTC Touch and Blackberry Storm. Hell im back to my blackberry curve at the moment because at least it does the job properly without "features" getting in the way of daily work. There are plenty of phones out there for the dorks, nerds and geeks but thats not who the iphone is aimed at and wont be who the ipod is aimed at either, doest make it a bad product just a different one. I'm one of the ones with one of the does it all $2000 slate computers...I dont need 2/3rds of the "features" for what I do, I cant wait till I can ditch it for something smaller and lighter, whether is the ipad, hp's slate or MSI's, most likely it will be the ipad or MSI's unless HP cuts out some of the bloat from windows 7 and comes up with a custom desktop...navigating windows 7 with a finger sounds about as fun as performing a self vasectomy with a rusty spoon. Apple doesnt care about being the be-all-end-all device for the geek population, frankly I dont think they care about that audience at all. In fact I would guess that if they recieved ringing endorsements from the geek community at one of their products unveilings they would likely scrap it before shipping under the assumption that its evidently too complicated and bloated for the masses. They pick a feature set and spend more time on their UI than their hardware most of the time (which is why apple is rarely cutting edge hardware wise...with a few exceptions like the LED backlit iMac). Their focus is dead simple and reliable...thats why they are popular.