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    'If software remains proprietary, sales are limited when they sell fewer hardware units'.

    Nintendo needs to bring its rich slate of IP to rival platforms, US analyst Michael Pachter said.

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    US analyst Michael Pachter has once again suggested Nintendo go "third party", following the company's significant sales forecast revisions and the insistence from president Saturo Iwata that he will not resign.

    According to him, Nintendo must first “acknowledge the problem”, adding that the Wii U hasn’t “resonated with consumers”.

    As you may know, Pachter has for many years called for serious revisions to Nintendo's business strategy.

    So, what do you think? Do you agree with him?

    NEWS SOURCE #1: Pachter calls for Nintendo to bring IP to rival platforms (via) MCV UK
    NEWS SOURCE #2: Analyst calls for Nintendo to go third-party Iwata says its not as simple as moving Mario onto smartphones (via) VG247

    Our thanks to 'Gauss' for this news item!
     

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      pachter can fuck off and die, the snivelling little fanboy, he only wants nintendo to fail so he can play their games on his favourite platforms.
       
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      But there is some truth to what he says. I've said it before too. Exclusivity, by its very nature, limits your target audience, and thus limits sales potential. All three need to form a co-op, work together and enjoy the benefits of a larger audience.
       
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      I hate to agree with this prick, but he makes a very good point. There were 2 main reasons I bought a Wii U:

      1. because f0f announced they hacked it
      2. because Ninty promised third party titles

      We all know how both turned out so I said fuck it and bought a pc. lol
       
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      the problem is that even if nintendo did decide to put a few games on those other platforms it would take them 2 years to learn to take full advantage of the hardware to a level where they would be prepared to even start programming for it with an expectation of putting out a game of their usual quality and polish.
       
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      Go to hell, Pachter.
       
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      It's funny he says this stuff about Nintendo now, but did he say the same things about Sony when the PS3 was selling about as well as dog vomit in a jug? Or when the PSP was selling slower than frozen piss pops? Should Sonyhave gone third party and stopped selling hardware?

      Naaahhh that would be in violation of the terms of his contract... lol
       
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      The problem though is that if they go third party it still doesn't guarantee success....just look at Sega.
       
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      If Nintendo released Super Mario 3D World for the xbox or playstation, I can guarantee you they would sell! :D

      Sega is a horrible example for anything. They were rampant with incompetence.
       
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      Nintendo was, or still is more valuable than Sony.

      Look at Rare.. They turned bad when they "switched" console.
      Look at Sega.. It never worked out well with Sonic on other consoles.
      Crash Bandicoot, Spyro etc.. all failed on competitor consoles.

      The same will apply with Nintendo.
      If Nintendo wanna sell millions of games, it have to be on their own console or nothing.

      You just can't sell Mario on consoles which basically wants "COD" games.

      One more thing:

      Pachter should resign from Sony and and go to hell and burn.
       
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      I don't necessarily mean immediately, I'm talking more down the line.

      I think the big problem with the Wii U compared to the Wii is that is that the latter had Wii Sports.....that's what sold the console IMO as much as it did.
       
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      Remeber this..
      This ANALyst, (like others), dosen't understand a f*ck, where they were before crsis, why nobady of them has predicted?. I have bold Us letters, dosent' forget that these are "advice of part", because they want hit Japanese economy to give vantage to Us economy and Microsoft.

      Then, f*ck off.

      He wrong the comparison. Wii and ds there was before crisis, they had competitive prices and above all Wii was a real novelty thank his controllers. Now Wii u is the same Wii, with an hardware a bit little better. Many people have understand that it is the same thin. It isn't a real novelty.
       
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      If Nintendo were to go 3rd party, not that they would, but if they did, it would have to be 3rd party exclusive for another platform. Sega are a very good example of what happens when there is no longer the incentive of trying to push hardware, the software quality falls flat (massively so in Sega's case). Having to use their software as the main selling point for their consoles is what keeps their games at such a high level of quality (they are probably the only ones of the 3 who actually can still make a better than 3rd party exclusive, the other 2 just make an at best as good as a 3rd party game exclusive). Admidtedly, if they did go third party for home consoles, they would still be first party all the way on handhelds, a market they have had no real competition in for the best part of 20 years.

      Mind you, whenever Patcher tries to put a negative slant on something, it's luck improves so maybe the Wii-U is on it's way up now :)
       
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      i guess the big question we should be asking is by 2020 will we be playing mario on playstation or uncharted on nintendo? because lets not forget that despite nintendo's current woes they are still in a better position than sony group and its not looking great for either.
       
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      Has everyone forgotten that Sega used to be a 3rd party before they got into consoles? That they made crappy games towards the end is a systemic issue of the game development industry plus a mixture of their long history of mis-management.

      Then look at the fact that 3rd party games tend to be the best. Take Bethesda or Ubisoft or Square Enix for example. What vested hardware interest do they have to drive the development of the best game possible? None. Yet games like Farcry 3, Just Cause 2 and Fallout 3 still exist. This has always been true, from the Atari 2600 to the Xbox360, none of the truly best games were ever made by the 1st party console makers.

      Sure, a lot of slop comes from 3rd parties, but a lot of slop comes from 1st party too. 8 generations of consoles shows that the only thing that drives game quality is when the developer has an interest in producing a quality game. Hardware interests really don't play into it at all. If it did, all 1st party would be AAA and all 3rd party would be garbage.
       
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      Rare didn't switch. MS took them over and made them produce crappy kinect junk.....

      sega hadn't made a good sonic game since Sonic 2/Sonic CD. (generations was decent tho!)

      Crash bandicoot after 1/2/3 sucked. HORRIBLY. If the content was good, it would sell.
       
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      What was wrong with Sonic 3 & Knuckles?
       
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      rare were already on their way out before nintendo sold them to ms, that just hastened their fall

      i take it you didn't play sonic colors?

      must admit, dont think i played a crash game since 3 or if i did i forgot.
       
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      I know Rare didn't switch.. But they went downhill fast when MS got them for Xbox. Then the golden Era of Rare was gone, to never come back.

      They made one gem on 360 which sadly was quickly forgotten.
      It was originally a Gamecube game...Kameo.

      The reason why Kameo was so good is probably because they was close to finish the game when MS got it. That means Nintendo had a finger in the game.
       
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      you forgot PD zero, another launch title
       

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