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Policer officers use PS3s to catch child pornographers

Discussion in 'PlayStation Gaming News' started by Zeus, Nov 15, 2009.

By Zeus on Nov 15, 2009 at 9:19 PM
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    According to reports, federal officers are using the PS3 to protect children and catch child predators in real life. Apparently the processing power of the PS3 makes it perfect for 'large scale library attacks' and hunting down the vile offenders.

    <blockquote>But some federal officers are using the gaming console to protect children and catch predators in real life.

    "Bad guys are encrypting their stuff now, so we need a methodology of hacking on that to try to break passwords," said Claude E. Davenport, a senior special agent at the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement Cyber Crimes Center, known as C3. "The Playstation 3 - its processing component - is perfect for large-scale library attacks."

    C3 focuses on transnational Internet crimes, including child pornography that has crossed national boundaries. Those illegal images typically originate in Third World or developing countries, Davenport said. But when the child pornography enters the United States via placement on U.S. computer servers, it also enters C3's jurisdiction.
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    News Source: <a href="http://www.axcessnews.com/index.php/articles/show/id/19037" target="_blank">Axcessnews</a>
     

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Discussion in 'PlayStation Gaming News' started by Zeus, Nov 15, 2009.

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      This is why KIDS/TEENS should not play games like this. His mom i bet bought this game for him. Look at your kid mom/dad this is what locking your kids in a room with games for hrs does. Take them out, talk to them. FK i hate this kid and his mom and dad :cool: They make gamers look like no brain **** heads.
       
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      its just like the ps3 to do everyting but play good games.:D
       
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      Who's mom? Which kid? Did you happen to read the article? :p
       
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      I think he meant to post to the mw2 youtube video with the kid who is losing it and crying.
       
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      It actually does some of that, but you would have to actually give it a chance before formulating your opinion.

      What the hell is it with all the ps3 news regarding law, either cops are stealing them, teens are forcing others at gunpoint to buy it for them, or they are using it to find child porn sickos..... crap I just hope some cowardly alquaeda nut doesn't use them to start a nuclear war or something :rolleyes:
       
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      I hope bad guy (and/or retire police) don't start using this to brake in to our online bank account soon.
       
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      No good games such as INFAMOUs, KILLZONE, Ratchet, Uncharted, demon souls...

      and those are just the EXCLUSIVE AAA titles....

      Lets see how many AAA titles the RROD box got this year.... Forza...aa.erhh? thats it eh?

      Everywhere you turn there's a AAA exclusive coming to the ps3, not as often as someone who gets RROD. So much for jasper chips.
       
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      highly doubt it. This is a brute force attack and the keys used for banking I assume are more secure. brute force on larger keys will take far too long and are limited by physics (there is a catch however).

      Straight from wiki
      It would be far easier to use social engineering especially if you're a cop.
       
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      Sounds like an attention gimic, why use a PS3 when a multi core PC or a cell based PC could do the job far better. Not only that, but if this was genuinely somthing that was being done to catch these wastes of skin, wouldn't they be using somthing more akin to super computers. Nice to see that somthing extra has been found to be doable ont he PS3, unlikley that it's anything more than a gimic to get the attention f the media to make it look like somting is being done.
       
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      Troll

      Omg. (This message must be 10 characters but all I really wanted to say was that.)
       
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      wow finaly a really good use for the ps3,no joking this is really good i hope they catch loads of them dirty bastards
       
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      OH FUKK OFF!!!!

      most probably these stupid cops are siting around eating goddamned donuts and playing gta on their ps3's.

      Cops are the most useless, worthless, pointless, corrupt institution in the world. (Then they have the nerve to call me and ask me for donation every few months). Sorry - I'm all for copslaying.
       
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      They were doing it on server blades at $1,100 for each blade (never quite understood why server blades are so expensive compared to consumer computers but I think it has something to do with stability and error checking). the only cell based "PC" that I know of is an IBM blade which is expensive too.
      A multicore CPU isn't suited for this and doesn't give you anywhere near the flops that you get with the Cell, a PC GPU is your best bet for getting high performance for brute force attacks.

      A "supercomputer" is, in essence, nothing more than a cluster of regular processors which give you high performance. So a a cluster of PS3s can be a supercomputer too, though the phrase is usually given to the clusters which top the top500 list.

      I think ease was probably a reason more than anything with a PS3 you have your gigabit Ethernet to cluster them together for a supercomputer and you don't have to switch to using CUDA or OpenCL.
       
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      I'm aware of all that, and i'm not disputing that the PS3 would be able to do the job with some work, but the point is, why go out of their way to use somthing like a PS3 when they would have acces to far more powerfull machines to do the task, not to mention easier to program. Or why not use a GPU on a PC, they could even have multiple ones to speed upt he procces even more, if they are looking to take the less direct approach, no it just sounds like somthing that would grab press attention by saying they are using a PS3, rather than any real practical reality, i'd be pleasently suprised if it was entirely true, but I doubt it.

      That said I am always dubious about the practical performance of the PS3's cel chip, they claim 200+ GFlop, wheras my i7 975 is only gettign 1/4 of that at 3x the price of the entire PS3 (thats one hell of a subsidised console if it that CPU can out perform a £700+ on a £225 console), if they were that good wouldn't we see more than just servers and the PS3 using them in the mainstream. I know it's not as straight forward as that, but it all smacks of the old emotion engine's Pixar movies in real time perfomance in theory exagerations, when I doubt my 12GB i7 975 with dual xfire radeon 5870 PC would be able to do that without a serious struggle nigh on 10 years later.
       
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      lmao pretty much.
       
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      Your i7 is more expensive but offers less flops because for the same die size they must "print components" for things like out of order processing. Otherwise all the programmes from yesterday would stop working and it's no longer a PC. that's why you don't see the cell in mainstream PCs. You do see it in specialized hardware. IBM server blades use it. the RoadRunner supercomputer now the 2nd fastest supercomputer (beaten by Cray Jaguar recently) uses it as an accelerator.

      microprocessor design is always about silicon real estate you choose a die size which effectively sets your price and you try and see what you can put on it for higher performance. With the PC you cannot change x86 too much otherwise you kill compatibility and it's no longer a PC. To include things like out of order processing on the cell to make it PC software friendly you would have to increase your die size (cost) or cut out one of the cores (performance) to fit it on, but keep the same cost. That's why you do not see the Cell in mainstream PCs. A Cell-like processor (processors with specialized cores) for the PC is in Intels roadmap but that is in the future when the semiconductor process size shrinks lower than 32nm and you can get more on the same die size.

      Computers and consoles\servers have two different paradigms. The PC is more hardware designed for software and consoles and servers are more software designed for hardware. So the Cell and server processors are highly specialized and offer great performance but your i7 can deal with whatever PC software you throw at it. The same with a GPU. it's also highly specialized and that offers very high FLOPs in comparison to your CPU but you would have to switch to using CUDA or OpenCL.

      It's very likely that they did not have to change their code too much when switching from their server blades to PS3s. that was that, Yellowdog did the rest. They may well have been using IBM cell sever blades which would have made the switch even easier. Renting out a supercomputer is fairly expensive and so are the server blades they consist of not to mention the fact that you have to book it for a specified time given in advance.

      This could well be a publicity stunt by Sony but doesn't a public sector such as the police disclose all income or donation given to them under law? so a bigger more easily found story (seeing as it's in the public domain) would have been "Sony donates PS3s to police department in publicity stunt".
       

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