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By GaryOPA on Nov 20, 2013 at 12:59 PM
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    MS says it's 'automatic'.

    The Xbox One doesn't allow its owners to view just how much useable storage space is available on the 500GB hard drive. Microsoft explains why...

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    The first reviews of the Xbox One are in, and they have confirmed that the console doesn't allow to view just how much useable storage space is available in its 500GB hard drive, as it lacks a proper storage management system.

    As you may know, this is a feature that's available on the Xbox 360, and Sony's PlayStation 4 also has a way to view how much free space is left on its also 500GB hard drive.

    According to Eurogamer review of the console:

    When site NeoWin contacted Microsoft to ask why the console lacks a traditional storage viewing or management features, a company representative responded the following:

    There's also no word yet on just how much of the 500GB HDD is actually useable out of the box (without game and/or app installs).

    So, there you have it.

    The Xbox One launches this Friday in America and Europe.

    NEWS SOURCE #1: Xbox One lacks proper storage management Microsoft says it is automatic (via) NeoWin
    NEWS SOURCE #2: DigitalFoundry Xobx One hardware test (via) EuroGamer

    Our thanks to 'Gauss' for this news item!
     

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      so no freedom on how you want your space to be used ?
      so you need to be connected to the net to access your saved games ?

      fix it , cause its just another nail in the coffin of the xbone.

      the xbone is going to be a real disaster.

      its the 1st ever console i'm not getting at launch, congrats ms.
       
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      Two theories:
      1. They rushed the OS- running 'gag' I know.
      2. They originally intended the thing to require PERMANENT internet access, making the HDD just a cache drive as opposed to proper local storage.

      Even DVRs give better local management than this e.g. disable automatic deletion because people may have personal preferences to what's kept and deleted.
       
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      And let another basic feature MS has removed, I wouldn't be surprised if it can't play DVD's either
       
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      file management is beyond basic.
       
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      So I take it game saves are removed for a game when its uninstalled so what the hell happens if you do not have the X1 connected to the internet and delete a game?
       
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      I don't think you can delete a game, it decides when to delete a game to free up space.

      think of the 500gb hdd as a giant buffer, i mentioned this before a few months ago in the forums it is just a buffer, newest in at the top, the oldest out the bottom.

      Game saves never as they sync automatically in the background to the cloud, so in theory if you have 'net most of the time, the old you XB1 needs a connection once ever 24 hours thingie, your game saves will be safe as they sync up nightly in background between 1am to 3am to the cloud, at the same time new dashboard updates if any come streaming in to keep your XB1 updated with the latest apps.

      When you slip a disc it, it starts to cache the data needed to get the game going, in most cases a few gigs and at 6x you are up and running in few minutes, in alot of cases a minute, as you play the game the rest of the WHOLE disc caches to the 500gb HDD, if there is no room left, it looks to see the less-play game on your drive and starts to uncache that one, if you do happen to insert that rarely play game back in, it will just start to re-cache it again.

      In theory if the whole system works you never have to worry about your HDD it is just there, one core of 8 core is reserved just to manage all this stuff.

      On the PS4 it operates basically the ssme, except the dashboard tells you the amount of space a game is taking up, and when the drive is full it pops up a list of games you have and asks which one it should uncache for you to free up space.

      Or of course you can install a larger HDD in the PS4 as long as you can d/l the 900mb firmware pack and place it on usb stick.
       
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      This gets even more screwed up when you think about it, what if the content is dd?

      Its alright talking about discs but dd content may be more of a pain if you have a slower internet connection and/or download limits.
       
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      well on vita even if you are online when you delete a game it auto deletes the saves and patches and dlc completely unless before you do it you select to uplaod the save to the cloud.
       
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      New Day, another reason to NOT get Xbone.

      Is there even a day anymore where Xbone is not crippled in some way?

      MS didn't have time to fix any of it before launch, because of PS4 so thats why both consoles sucks so much at launch.
      PS4 have alot of drawbacks and limitations too unllike PS3.
       
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      I don't have a cap on my downloads and my connection is fairly speedy (on a good day and a good connection I can get about 2MB's a second.)

      But if I own a few games (wont take much to fill up 500GB's with BD based games) and like you say some of them are digital downloads. I am picky when I want to play a game and waiting a half an hour for 5GB's of data to download every time I want to change games would make me pretty pissed off. Sometimes I only have half an hour to play something so at that point I would probably just shut it off in disgust and fire up my PC or Wii-U or PS3 or one of 20 other systems that will work on demand. (PS3 only working that way because I don't update the firmware and the games I hardly update since I don't use it online.... Life has been better with the PS3 since I jumped off the constant update hamster wheel.)
       
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      I remember on 360 where 250Gb hard disk seems gigant. After install some games, Think to Battlefield 3 Patchm Hd, disk campain and multiplayer, patch on linee, same matter for forza a and other. Hard disk was "tight". I can't think about this new generation console where a game can be 50Gb.
       
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      I remember a time on the PC, coming off floppies on the CBM, when a 20 MEG drive seemed gigantic. Then 2 months later, it was full of porn and had no space left. :D
       
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      Haha. Yes, i remember the time when 20.MB HDD was extremly big. ;)
      And yes, it was common to store porn on the HDD's back in those days. My friends also did that.
       
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      I was too young but my dad's first HDD was supposedly full of Beatles stuff instead of porn (this was a 3/486 IIRC).
       

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